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Ron Paul vs. Lindsey Graham on the Future of the GOP
The Wall Street Journal ^ | 2009-10-14

Posted on 10/14/2009 7:02:43 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

Texas Republican Rep. Ron Paul took to the cable networks today to jab back at South Carolina Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham, who over the weekend said he would not sit back and watch the Texan “hijack” the GOP with his brand of Republicanism.

“My first reaction would be, ‘What does he have against the Constitution?’ And the supporters I have support me because I’m a traditional conservative and I support the Constitution,” Paul told CNN in an interview tonight.

He cited Graham’s support of TARP funds and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and “all the big government things” as examples of why his supporters feel lukewarm about the GOP. “These are the things that constitutional conservatives don’t support,” he said.

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Their war of words is emblematic of larger battles brewing within the Republican Party over how best to heal the electoral wounds suffered in 2006 and 2008, rebrand itself, and build a new generation of party leaders.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: gopfuture; lindseygraham; rinowars; ronpaul
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1 posted on 10/14/2009 7:02:44 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: upchuck; bamahead; djsherin; BGHater
*Ping!*
2 posted on 10/14/2009 7:03:07 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Kick corrupt Democrats *AND* Republicans out of office in 2010!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Neither of these two are appropriate or qualified to address the topic.


3 posted on 10/14/2009 7:05:09 PM PDT by NewLand (What does 0bama know and when did he know it?)
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To: rabscuttle385

Whatever the future of the GOP.....it would be better if these two don’t participate.


4 posted on 10/14/2009 7:09:14 PM PDT by G Larry ( Obamacare=Dying in Line!)
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To: rabscuttle385

I’d be a “Paulbot” before I’d be a “Graham cracker”.


5 posted on 10/14/2009 7:10:12 PM PDT by papasmurf (RnVjayB5b3UsIDBiYW1hLCB5b3UgcGllY2Ugb2Ygc2hpdCBjb3dhcmQh)
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To: rabscuttle385

PING


6 posted on 10/14/2009 7:10:21 PM PDT by TheVitaminPress
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To: G Larry

Sarah Sarah Sarah Sarah ra ra ra


7 posted on 10/14/2009 7:11:08 PM PDT by Friendofgeorge ( Yes I Love Sarah Palin!! I wish she were mine.)
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To: NewLand
Get real. Who do you think it was who created the Tea Party movement? Who influenced McCain to pick Sarah Palin? Who got millions of Americans talking about the Fed and limited government again? New breed of GOP candidates running as classic old-right Republicans?

It sure as Hell wasn't Grahamnesty.

The only flaw with Paul is his 18th century foreign policy views, but even then it's still better than Grahamnesty supporting endless wars and nation-building everywhere. We need to have this fight, and restore libertarian-conservatism back in the GOP.

8 posted on 10/14/2009 7:11:50 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (90% of the fedgov is unconstitutional. The other 10% besides the military doesnt know what it's doin)
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To: NewLand

>>Neither of these two are appropriate or qualified to address the topic.<<

When 2 rhinos battle, the base pays the price.


9 posted on 10/14/2009 7:12:35 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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Ping


10 posted on 10/14/2009 7:13:19 PM PDT by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

EEE, folks here and in the GOP are never going to get it even with the facts slapping them in the face.


11 posted on 10/14/2009 7:19:39 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: rabscuttle385
He cited Graham’s support of TARP funds and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and “all the big government things” as examples of why his supporters feel lukewarm about the GOP. “These are the things that constitutional conservatives don’t support,” he said.

The Scrimp King is dead on correct here!! Anyone that supports Tarp and the Carl Marx capitalism it leads to is one sick puppy.

12 posted on 10/14/2009 7:22:47 PM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Ron Paul is almost sounding normal now..compared to Graham..manly too..


13 posted on 10/14/2009 7:22:51 PM PDT by GoMonster (GO)
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To: freedumb2003

Ron Paul is a lot of things, to be sure. But he is NOT a Rhino. Paleo-conservative, possibly. Pre-WW2 Conservative? Yes. Neo-con? NO! Many here on Free Republic are neo-cons, as are many of the most popular talk radio figures. So it’s not surprising that many here don’t like Paul.

But he’s not a RINO as we use the term. (IE: Rockefeller Republican, often siding with and voting with Dems, unwilling to take a stand for Conservatism, wishy washy on the issues.)


14 posted on 10/14/2009 7:24:03 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: freedumb2003
"When 2 rhinos battle, the base pays the price."

WTH are you talking about? I'm not a Paulbot, but Ron Paul is no RINO by any stretch of the imagination.

15 posted on 10/14/2009 7:26:11 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: rabscuttle385

May the best RINO win.


16 posted on 10/14/2009 7:27:21 PM PDT by JHBowden (Keep the Change!)
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To: rabscuttle385
Linky to video
17 posted on 10/14/2009 7:29:00 PM PDT by murphE ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." - GK Chesterton)
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To: Slump Tester; Jack Black

In my book, anyone who isn’t a Conservative is a RINO.

Paul hews to some true ideals. But he also shat bit nutso and drags us all down with him.


18 posted on 10/14/2009 7:31:00 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: murphE

Lindsey you and Juan lost if not for Sarah it might have been a 40 state plus blowout.


19 posted on 10/14/2009 7:32:03 PM PDT by scooby321
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

All of his flaws combined do not add up to the damage done by RINOs like Graham, Snowe, Specter, McCain, Jeffords, Chafee.....

It was Bush’s deviations from conservatism (I don’t consider nation-building neocons in the same category as conservatives) that alienated the public against the GOP. Positioning RINOs like those above in influencial leadership also took its toll on the party. They always blocked the will of the the people that got the party as a whole elected.


20 posted on 10/14/2009 7:36:46 PM PDT by FreeInWV (Have you had enough change yet?)
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