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Judge Land Fines Orly Taitz $20K, File Copy of Order with State Bar of CA
United States District Court (Georgia) ^ | 10/13/2009 | Judge Clay Land

Posted on 10/13/2009 7:45:31 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan

When a lawyer files complaints and motions without a reasonable basis for believing that they are supported by existing law or a modification or extension of existing law, that lawyer abuses her privilege to practice law. When a lawyer uses the courts as a platform for a political agenda disconnected from any legitimate legal cause of action, that lawyer abuses her privilege to practice law. When a lawyer personally attacks opposing parties and disrespects the integrity of the judiciary, that lawyer abuses her privilege to practice law. When a lawyer recklessly accuses a judge of violating the Judicial Code of Conduct with no supporting evidence beyond her dissatisfaction with the judge’s rulings, that lawyer abuses her privilege to practice law. When a lawyer abuses her privilege to practice law, that lawyer ceases to advance her cause or the ends of justice.

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Regrettably, the conduct of counsel Orly Taitz has crossed these lines, and Ms. Taitz must be sanctioned for her misconduct. After a full review of the sanctionable conduct, counsel’s conduct leading up to that conduct, and counsel’s response to the Court’s show cause order, the Court finds that a monetary penalty of $20,000.00 shall be imposed upon counsel Orly Taitz as punishment for her misconduct, as a deterrent to prevent future misconduct, and to protect the integrity of the Court. Payment shall be made to the United States, through the Middle District of Georgia Clerk’s Office, within thirty days of today’s Order. If counsel fails to pay the sanction due, the U.S. Attorney will be authorized to commence collection proceedings.

(Full Order at the link.)


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: afterbirthers; afterbirtherwave; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; civilprocedure; eligibility; judgeland; orlytaitz; truthers; vetters; vetting
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

And this this case is relevant how....?


741 posted on 10/13/2009 4:10:18 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: LorenC
It one holds the position that I am not a natural born citizen because Italian law considers me to be one of their citizens, even though I wasn't born there, my parents weren't born there, and my grandparents weren't born there, it leads to some strange places. Since Spain, for example, does not offer citizenship unto the generations in the same way, you now find yourself in the position of claiming that the US doesn't define who is and isn't a natural born citizen. Foreign countries do.

Suppose that the Republic of Togo's legislature, or whatever the hell they have, voted to consider all Americans to be citizens of Togo. Would anyone be eligible to be president?

742 posted on 10/13/2009 4:10:24 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Sibre Fan
Leo's two U.S. citizen parents definition was founded on the basis of his claim that John Jay, who wrote the letter recommending that the President must be a "natural-born citizen," read Vattel (as indicated by other Jay writings), and that Vattel's work defined "natural born citizen" as having two citizen parents.

If you go back to when Vattel was first cited as THE authority on the issue, it all "started" with John Jay's letter and his reliance in other writings on Vattel.

For what it's worth, I'm pretty sure nobody was citing Vattel as an authority for Obama's eligibility prior to September 2008, about three months after the allegations gained popularity. Then when Vattel and his quote were discovered, he was elevated to being the patron saint of birtherdom.

In other words, just as with the search for evidence supporting 'born in Kenya' took months to bear fruit, the 'two-citizen parent' theory circulated for months before anybody dug up Vattel's quote to support the theory. Not the other way around.

743 posted on 10/13/2009 4:10:52 PM PDT by LorenC
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Judge Land describing himself?


744 posted on 10/13/2009 4:11:55 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: kukaniloko

We believe you. Of course 30 years ago things were different. Today we have terrorism and identity theft. And now new laws have to be added because we have a usurper president. Things change.

Short forms are traceable in records even years back. You just snail mailed for them to the county where the BC was issued.

What year was your licensed issued in Texas?


745 posted on 10/13/2009 4:12:18 PM PDT by OafOfOffice (Constitution is not neutral.It was designed to take the government off the backs of people-Douglas)
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To: LorenC

Don’t ask, don’t Vattel


746 posted on 10/13/2009 4:12:23 PM PDT by kukaniloko
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To: LorenC

Whatever happened to the age-of-his-mother issue? Something like she was not old enough to establish his citizenship so the father’s citizenship was the determinant. Not sure if I worded the question correctly.


747 posted on 10/13/2009 4:13:04 PM PDT by nufsed (Release the passport, school and birth records.)
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To: OafOfOffice

2005


748 posted on 10/13/2009 4:13:19 PM PDT by kukaniloko
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
Suppose that the Republic of Togo's legislature, or whatever the hell they have, voted to consider all Americans to be citizens of Togo. Would anyone be eligible to be president?

I've been saying this for ages. I even posited the hypothetical here a couple of weeks back. I got this as a response: "you chose to posit a ridiculous hypothetical. Let’s play....what are the odds that the UK will grant everyone born in the US dual citizenship?"

749 posted on 10/13/2009 4:14:11 PM PDT by LorenC
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To: LorenC

Discovery in progress, includes the discovery of who the Founders actually took as references in establishing the magnificent charter of government called the Constitution.

Happy Columbus Day add one.


750 posted on 10/13/2009 4:15:03 PM PDT by bvw
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To: 1rudeboy

Would you like to know what happened when I inquired on your highschool diploma?


751 posted on 10/13/2009 4:15:03 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: nufsed
Whatever happened to the age-of-his-mother issue? Something like she was not old enough to establish his citizenship so the father’s citizenship was the determinant. Not sure if I worded the question correctly.

That would apply only if he was born in Kenya.

752 posted on 10/13/2009 4:16:44 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Thanx.


753 posted on 10/13/2009 4:17:54 PM PDT by nufsed (Release the passport, school and birth records.)
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To: Uncle Chip
Oh Please -- get over yourself, Axelwrong.

Axelwrong? LOL! As far as I can tell, my interpretation is currently the Law of the Land while your crackpot theories are a million miles from ever being heard in a courtroom.

But, hey, keep spinnin'! You Birthers have been dead wrong 100% of the time. Why stop now?

754 posted on 10/13/2009 4:18:42 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: kukaniloko

uh huh.


755 posted on 10/13/2009 4:18:50 PM PDT by OafOfOffice (Constitution is not neutral.It was designed to take the government off the backs of people-Douglas)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Answer to your 730 comment which was “Whoever wrote that obviously is not familiar with the Ark case and the Elg case.”, the scotus wrote it and i posted the link to the case.


756 posted on 10/13/2009 4:19:08 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: LorenC
They phrased it based on his circumstances, not on some grand but unstated theory of natural-born citizenship.

Nonsense, read the entire thing. They were referencing the definition of the First Congress in 1790 and that was the two parent definition. Here is the resolution in its entirety:

Whereas the Constitution of the United States requires that, to be eligible for the Office of the President, a person must be a ‘‘natural born Citizen’’ of the United States;

Whereas the term ‘‘natural born Citizen’’, as that term appears in Article II, Section 1, is not defined in the Constitution of the United States;

Whereas there is no evidence of the intention of the Framers or any Congress to limit the constitutional rights of children born to American citizens serving in the military nor to prevent those children from serving as their country’s President;

Whereas such limitations would be inconsistent with the purpose and intent of the ‘‘natural born Citizen’’ clause of the Constitution of the United States, as evidenced by the First Congress’s own statute defining the term ‘‘natural born Citizen’’;

Whereas the well-being of all citizens of the United States is preserved and enhanced by the men and women who are assigned to serve our country outside of our national borders;

Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President; and

Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved, That John Sidney McCain, III, is a ‘‘natural born Citizen’’ under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States.

757 posted on 10/13/2009 4:19:15 PM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Wow! Land actually admits that he is protecting Obammer from the law. Damn!


758 posted on 10/13/2009 4:19:54 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: LorenC
Which is precisely how everyone alleging that Obama was born in Kenya acted up through late October 2008. Months upon months of rumors and allegations, with ZERO evidence. And then, finally, with the Sarah Obama tape, someone manufactured a shred.

Nonsense by you again. I gave you plenty of evidence that Obama is not a NBC and not eligible to be president that encompasses more than the alleged Kenyan birth.

Isn't the usual argument that Obama is wasting TOO MUCH money on these lawsuits? Having them go to trial would cost MORE!

No, Obama spent a small fortune of campaign funds and the country paying his donkey butt for Gov. lawyers - he would spend less if he would have let this go to trail. Get it over with now.

And side-stepping the lack of actual, substantive evidence supporting the 'born in Kenya' theory, in order to shift focus back to dual citizenship, isn't topic-shifting?

No again and again. The subject here is about Obama not being a natural born citizen. Palin and Nader are not.

So is the requirement 'two citizen parents' or 'no dual citizenships at birth'? They aren't the same thing, after all. Someone could fail to satisfy only one, or both. For instance, Bubba Ho-Tep stated earlier in this thread he was born a dual citizen, and he was assured that he was still as NBC because both his parents were citizens.

Assured by who? Oh a Bubba told you so. LoL! Here the chance to prove Bubba is right!! Get Obama to hear if he really is an NBC on the merits - start the trail.

If I'm going to ask my professors for clarification on the definition, I need to know which definition you're alleging is the true one.

Make sure you get a Lefty Socialist Commie one. He will tell you what you want to hear. I suggest Professor William Ayers.

759 posted on 10/13/2009 4:20:02 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: LorenC
You can poo poo it all you want, but the mere fact that Obama had a British/Kenyan citizenship at birth makes Obama not eligible to be president.

1. I believe the correct spelling is "pooh-pooh".

2. While the fact that Obama's father was not a U.S. citizen may be relevant to Obama's NBC status, the mere fact that Obama held dual citizenship should not be an eliminating factor. A foreign country might arbitrarily grant automatic citizenship at birth to classes of Americans who did not ask for it.

760 posted on 10/13/2009 4:22:03 PM PDT by wideminded
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