Posted on 10/05/2009 11:36:54 AM PDT by meandog
Health care is in the news — but you have to wonder where all the Christians are. This is one of the biggest issues facing our country and our people, yet no one seems to be bringing a Christian voice or tone to that debate. Have you noticed?
During the presidential campaign, there was much talk about the 50 million or so who have no health care insurance, many of whom who forgo care altogether and then wind up in emergency rooms with more serious, more fully developed illnesses than would have been the case had they sought preventive care. There seemed to be considerable outrage that the greatest nation in the world would allow one-sixth of its people to be without access to care. What happened to "no red states or blue states, but rather the United States?" Political partisanship threatens to short-circuit any progress on providing health care to all.
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??? I do give, both through taxes, and through personal donations. The money I pay in taxes that is designated towards medical, is more efficiently distributed, I believe, than what I could do myself. The monies I personally give to medical charities, I do not know the admin costs.
No I can’t back it up, it’s a spiritual belief, not knowledge.
Perhaps there is a scripture, I wouldn’t know. I do not need a book, to believe in God. It’s what I would call, self-evident.
WHY do we still have poverty despite a massive Govt effort to stamp it out?
Why do you think you are magically going to "Fix" the problem of people being irresponsible with their heatlh care by passing a massive new program to "fix" that?
Lady who sings in the choir with me prosecutes Medicare fraud. It is endemic, fraudulent doctors, fraudulent patients, fraudulent doctors and patients colluding with each other. Your tax money is being wasted hand over fist.
Which is why there's a principle of subsidiarity in the first place.
You should check out the admin costs on the medical charities as well. Easy enough to do.
I told you, because God said we would and obviously whatever man can do, is not good enough.
That is why we keep trying...Geez, think.
10 For even when we were with you, we commanded you this: If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat.
No, I haven’t.
Bottom line is, I will pay taxes, and some of it will go towards medical. Some of my money will go directly to medical charities, and some will go to others.
A friend of mine sells private health insurance plans. He told me of the 39-year-old father of two whose family was quoted a monthly insurance premium of $250. "Are you kidding?" he said, refusing the coverage. "That's almost as much as my boat payment!"
If we had more of that ideology in place,
we’d have a lot fewer people hungry and in poverty.
There’s also Eph 4:28
Those who are stealing must stop stealing and start working. They should earn an honest living for themselves. Then they will have something to share with those who are poor.
Why is she a 48 year old widow with a 14 year old child working for minimum wage? I mean, if you are going to come up with hypothetical people, you have to get much more info about them.
I don’t know what medical treatment she would get (and neither do you) since she’s not a real person and you and I are not doctors. Suffice it to say people are not dropping dead on the streets in this country for lack of medical care. Does everyone get the very very best medical care? I doubt it. Do you think we can afford for everyone to get the very best medical care regardless of their ability to pay?
I didn’t give an opinion on what you believe, however I don’t have any desire to debate Biblical things with someone who doesn’t believe. Carry on.
But you read it without interpreting or studying? What DO you read it for?
So, you would rather others decided for you what sort of charity is appropriate? I don’t think that’s what Jesus had in mind, but perhaps you can point me to the scripture where he says this?
Really Stuart, from a Christian perspective, that is a complete and total cop-out. Is that REALLY what you think Jesus asked you to do?
OK, I guess I have to ask. You believe in God. Do you believe what the Bible says, or do you think we just think about what we think God wants us to do and follow our own conscience?
2 Thessalonians 3:10 (New International Version)
10For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: “If a man will not work, he shall not eat.”
Robinson belongs to a church which has billions of dollars sitting in endowment funds and fat pension plans. They use these funds in order to provide themselves cushy salaries and cushy retirements and some funds are used to sue other Christians. In fact, one of the wealthiest Churches ever is one on Wall Street.
Jesus did call the Church care for the poor. I would give Robinson more credit if he first called his own church to task about its stewardship and its care for the sick.
Just like homosexuality, Jesus never had anything to say about nationalized healthcare. . . . [/sarc]
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