Posted on 10/01/2009 11:45:52 AM PDT by Steelfish
I’m probably alone on this one; but I don’t care if they are crazy as a loon. I don’t care if in their culture, this sort of thing is typical and normal. I don’t care if they are a minority, had a rough childhood, lost a job or broke their shoelace.
You see, to my way of thinking, this is unfair to the person who knew what he was doing and did it anyway. Why should the person who knew evil be punished more than the nut job who didn’t?
Our criminal system exists to protect society. So, let’s save everyone some money, fasten some lead weights on these vermin and dump them in the Great Salt Lake and have them feed the brine shrimp for the long, cold winter months. This way, they can contriubute something back to society.
She is beautiful!
I saw a clip of Ed Smart today relaying that he didn’t know much of what Elizabeth testified on. He choked up and got in his car, it horrible to see the realization on his face. I’m so glad they are such a strong family.
I think that's a better description than crazy. He knew what he was doing; he's evil.
I have no problem with the death penalty for sexual predators of Children!
The Supremes have meddled well beyond their proper bounds and said that a death penalty for this crime is "cruel and unusual". They are wrong, in the sense that it's no more cruel to execute an evil predator who rapes a girl daily for many years than it is to execute an evil predator who murders a girl. They are also wrong in the sense that if execution is the standard penalty for raping a child (as it should be for this type of crime), then it is not legally an "unusual" punishment.
Sadly, our excuse for a justice system cannot give these evil rapists the punishment they deserve. Fortunately though, plenty of ordinary decent criminals will have their eyes open for an opportunity to do the right thing. In general, I believe that we should provide a safe environment for those in state custody, but my feelings become ambiguous when the justice system is broken.
Cripes.
I know it took like 5 tries and 8 different methods, but I thought they finally killed Rasputin.
I’d be happy to shoot him in the head with my .45, wash my hands, and go eat a sandwich.
Cut a little piece out of him for each time he raped-raped her because that is what he did to her.
Yes, this is another example of the legal system's nasty habit of torturing plain English well beyond its meaning.
Execution, per se, is neither cruel nor unusual. Especially in the context of the time when the Constitution was drafted, a quick, humane execution is the very antithesis of "cruel and unusual".
The truly cruel punishments of the 18th century are the type to make any person cringe and sicken at the thought. Prisoners were quite literally tortured to death in the most horrific and painful ways imaginable. We do not and HAVE not punished criminals in "cruel and unusual" ways in the US.
The "remove all accountability" culture which has grown up in the world just can't grasp the principle behind capital punishment. Some crimes are so horrible that the perpetrator's life should be forfeit. Aggravated kidnapping of a child from her own bed, with repeated aggravated rape is ABSOLUTELY in that category.
First part of statement debatable and not really subject to proof one way or another. A person makes a decision which side to come down on based on factors other than logic.
Second part of statement absolutely accurate.
Ancient Greeks and Romans held the heroes of The Iliad up as the absolute ideal. The plot of the story involves one guy getting ticked off because another guy takes away the girl he was intending to rape himself. Nobody appears to have given a single thought to the girl herself.
Muslim culture spells out the circumstances under which female war captives can be legally raped. Even the Law of Moses has similar rules.
In fact, rape and enslavement of captives has been been pretty much a constant of all human societies before recent Western Civilization. And our own rejection of the practice has too often been only theoretical.
Not as part of the legal system, not since we became a separate nation.
People were tortured to death in the old colonial days. And during lynchings as recently as the last century.
ML/NJ
That really is the question, isn't it? Many of us survive events not nearly as horrific, and then go on to stew in our victimhood, forever. How did Elizabeth Smart manage to come out of this and not be a victim? If she ever goes on the lecture circuit, she could help a lot of people who just don't know how to get past certain things.
faking being religious nuts to they can bum their way..true evil slime
Sounds like someone else in the news, except he did it in Hollywood a long time ago which, according to some people, makes it OK.
Are you saying that what this man did, kidnapping, raping, etc. of a little girl is not absolutely wrong?
Are you making the case that what this man did, kidnap, rape, torture, drug or whatever else he did may acutally be okay if enough perverts are in charge?
True, but not our government, since the Constitution.
It was only rape the 1st time. Rape-Rape the 2nd. Rape-rape-rape the 3rd....
Sorry.
There is a reason rape (forcible, not drunken regrets) was originally punished with death as was murder, for the severity of the crime against civilization.
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