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Obama Risks a Domestic Military ‘Intervention’
Unknown | September 29, 2009 | John L. Perry

Posted on 09/29/2009 7:33:28 PM PDT by Dick Bachert

Edited on 09/29/2009 7:36:41 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

There is a remote, although gaining, possibility America


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2loony4words; carefulwhatyouask4; constitution; military; missinglink; nationalsecurityfail; nssnsp; obama; tinfoil; turkishmodel
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To: wolf24

So did I...Glad to see he’s still at it. He has an amazing history.


141 posted on 09/29/2009 9:08:24 PM PDT by hope
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To: trumandogz

As another poster correctly pointed out, anything like this would HAVE to originate at the very top. And as another poster rightly remarked, these guys are as political as anyone on Capitol Hill or they wouldn’t have made it to the top.

Having said that, they ALSO have NON-MILITARY families and extended families who would suffer in a renegade, Constitutionless, totalitarian regime which history teaches only gets worse and more oppressive with time.

I sincerely believe that these traditionally honorable and honor bound men would do what they felt was necessary to keep that from happening lest their failure to act make a total mockery of their careers and lives.

The few I’ve ever met — among them the late General George Olmsted (my wife worked for him in D.C. back in the 60s) and the late General Lew Walt, USMC — would rather eat their service pistols than stand aside while the nation and the Constitution to which they swore that oath was systematically dismantled (as it is as you read this).

Just my opinion.


142 posted on 09/29/2009 9:13:14 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (THE 2010 ELECTIONS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT IN OUR LIFETIMES! BE THERE!!!)
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To: OneWingedShark

IN NO CASE should the Constitution be “selectively enforced” as your method surly suggests.
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No no! Not MY method. I was just suggesting a scenario, NOT advocating any action.

With regard to who would “suspend the Constitution,” I agree that the President could not, nor could the Supreme Court. Only the Legislature could do so...But they have an ironclad, veto-proof majority, and if they got their backs against the wall, would YOU put it past them to vote to suspend the Constitution and “temporarily” give authority to the [Leftist, power-hungry] President?

I didn’t say it would be legal OR right — but I wouldn’t doubt for a second they are capable of it if it retains their power indefinitely.

I certainly never proposed “selective enforcement” of the Constitution. Not sure where you got that from...? But, we have had “selective observance” of the Constitution as far back as the prosecution of the Civil War, and certainly since the rise of Progressivism and the triumph of New Deal policies.... Do you not agree?


143 posted on 09/29/2009 9:13:29 PM PDT by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
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To: Grizzled Bear
#2 happened in New Orleans during the Katrina aftermath.

The Guard entered my New Orleans house as well as every house in the city after Katrina and they took nothing.

144 posted on 09/29/2009 9:18:54 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Dick Bachert

He may be, but that is different matter.

That problem should be resolved at the polls.

If there were a grievous enough event, impeachment would be an option but that is a real can of worms because of the idiots who are in the line of succession.

I have always felt that the reason Clinton was not impeached was that those in the position to do so knew that Al Gore is a flake.

Clinton certainly was preferable to Gore.

Better to have a womanizer in office than a moron.


145 posted on 09/29/2009 9:20:38 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: trumandogz
"The Guard entered my New Orleans house as well as every house in the city after Katrina and they took nothing."

Interesting, did you invite them in? could you refuse? did they know if you had a weapon? Inquiring minds want to know.
146 posted on 09/29/2009 9:22:45 PM PDT by JoSixChip (The only thing broken in this country is the government.)
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To: Dick Bachert

And you know that the academies have been “infested”? Any links or evidence to support that statement?


147 posted on 09/29/2009 9:24:10 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: patriot preacher

>I certainly never proposed “selective enforcement” of the Constitution. Not sure where you got that from...?

The Constitution places the President as the Commander-in-Chief of the military; to suspend the Constitution is to literally let them [the military] off any binding chains [in civilian governance].

>But, we have had “selective observance” of the Constitution as far back as the prosecution of the Civil War, and certainly since the rise of Progressivism and the triumph of New Deal policies.... Do you not agree?

Just because it is common practice does not make it right, or just.


148 posted on 09/29/2009 9:26:34 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: jacquej

The academies have been teaching all sorts of leftist touchy-feely subjects for some 20 years. Go to their web sites and look for yourself. Do your own research. I’ve got my hands full on this thread.


149 posted on 09/29/2009 9:30:02 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (THE 2010 ELECTIONS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT IN OUR LIFETIMES! BE THERE!!!)
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To: Rome2000

Texas and maybe Louisiana secede and the marxist in chief issue orders to bring them back.
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I guess that would be worst case,,,

It would be very Cold and Dark in the N/NE if that

happened...;0)


150 posted on 09/29/2009 9:32:58 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: JoSixChip

I live in New Orleans part-time and evacuated the city a couple days prior to Katrina. Before I left the city, I locked my home’s doors and checked that the doors of the apartment were locked.

When I returned the front of my house and every other house in the city had spray painted markings left by Guard indicating what was found in the house. There were markings for dead people, live people and animals dead or alive.

And, the doors were unlocked and nothing was taken.

So yes, all houses were entered but they did not attempt to confiscate all guns.


151 posted on 09/29/2009 9:33:13 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: OneWingedShark

All those thing could happen, but I think it would be well after we have become a thoroughly corrupt toilet.

Many people want Obama to send his JBT’s into the streets to kick in doors and drag people out of their homes in the dead of night. Such actions would make our suffering under tyranny much shorter. Instead we have a much harder road ahead and some people don’t want to deal with it.

If O could get away with a violent takeover of this country he would do it. But he knows that his tyranny has to have an air of legitimacy.

The only way we can counter what he is doing is through an incredibly laborious effort of debate, rallies, PTA meetings, city council meetings, letters to the editor, blogs. Correspondence to Congress, Voting, phone calls, education etc.


152 posted on 09/29/2009 9:34:58 PM PDT by Ajnin
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To: Dick Bachert

While that may be your opinion, such an attempt against the government would result in the conspirators being sent to the brig for a long time or executed.


153 posted on 09/29/2009 9:37:17 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz

>>#2 happened in New Orleans during the Katrina aftermath.
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>The Guard entered my New Orleans house as well as every house in the city after Katrina and they took nothing.

As I recall, it was “Law Enforcement Officers” and not the Guard who were taking people’s property.


154 posted on 09/29/2009 9:39:20 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark
As I recall, it was “Law Enforcement Officers” and not the Guard who were taking people’s property.

Well, not in my neighborhood.

In fact, I was in NOLA while my neighborhood was closed and officially off limits the Guard would pass by every 10 minutes and waive.

And that was before I gave them cases of beer.

155 posted on 09/29/2009 9:46:47 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz
"So yes, all houses were entered but they did not attempt to confiscate all guns.

Thanks for the reply. The Guard did get aggressive and confiscate guns though. There is video of it on youtube. If you haven't seen it you should do a search and view it. Unless you think the footage is fake, I would be interested in what you think happened.
156 posted on 09/29/2009 9:46:47 PM PDT by JoSixChip (The only thing broken in this country is the government.)
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To: JoSixChip

I don’t know where that may have happened, but the Guard was in parts of town for two years after the storm.


157 posted on 09/29/2009 9:48:13 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz
New Orleans Mayor Finally Admits Illegal Gun Confiscation, Settles With NRA

In this case, it was obviously N.O. city employees doing it.

Don't know about the NG.

158 posted on 09/29/2009 9:52:09 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

You have to remember that New Orleans is Third World, and NOPD acts accordingly.


159 posted on 09/29/2009 9:55:17 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Ajnin

1. The short Civil War.
2. The police finding out the hard way how stupid it is to try to confiscate everybody’s guns.
4. Obama not giving up the office of presidency, and learning quickly that won’t sit with us.
5. United Nations forces patrolling America, and receiving their just desserts once and for all.


160 posted on 09/29/2009 10:06:22 PM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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