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Are There John McCain Birthers, Too?
Newsweek ^ | David A. Graham

Posted on 09/28/2009 9:46:05 AM PDT by nickcarraway

Yesterday, Public Policy Polling released results of a poll showing that 42 percent of Republicans nationwide do not believe Barack Obama was born in the United States. This sort of statistic has become old news by now. Despite overwhelming evidence that the president was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born citizen, a core of Americans remain convinced he was born overseas.

But with pollsters frantically trying to get in on the birther action, has anyone stopped to ask whether Sen. John McCain was born in the United States? McCain was actually born in Panama, but is considered a natural-born citizen, since he was born to an American military family stationed on a U.S. base. And, except for perhaps a small fringe, no one has questioned whether he would have been constitutionally qualified to be president.

We've poked around a bit and been unable to find any professional poll that asked Americans whether they believed McCain was born in the U.S. The fact that he was physically born outside the U.S. should have had no bearing on his own legitimacy, real or perceived, had he been elected president. But it would be interesting to see how many of the people who believe, incorrectly, that Obama was born outside the U.S. realize that McCain actually was not.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; mccain; obama
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To: Phantom Lord

Do you have more info on this?


61 posted on 09/28/2009 10:35:53 AM PDT by mwilli20 (BO. Making communists proud all over the world.)
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To: VRWCmember
A US Military base IS US soil.

No it isn't. See my reply 50.

62 posted on 09/28/2009 10:36:15 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: David; jcsjcm; rxsid; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; ...
Thanks, David.

Here's something to jump-start your afternoon.

What American's believe is largely irrelevant. Bottom line is that John McCain was born in a foreign country and is not a Natural Born Citizen. Further, the statute on which he relies for his claim of citizenship was enacted several years after his birth and is not retroactive.

John's not eligible either. He has a citizenship problem comparable to Obama's problem also.

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64 posted on 09/28/2009 10:44:28 AM PDT by LucyT ("The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - M.Thatcher)
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To: mlo
Here is what the certificate looks like that the state of Hawaii has on record and is available for the asking. Several peices of information that is not contained on the Certification, which is the alleged document produced by un-named campaign workers.. Time, Hospital, doctor name and signature. Not available on the certification. This is the only piece of paper that guarantees that was no legal monkey business. And yes for $10 Obama could produce this.


65 posted on 09/28/2009 10:44:51 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: nickcarraway

I put this canard in the “Jesus was a community organizer” category. It will be abandoned soon enough.


66 posted on 09/28/2009 10:46:38 AM PDT by CASchack
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To: Always Right

I’d like to see one for someone from the period who’s black and see if the Birth Certificate says “African” under one or either parent’s “race.”


67 posted on 09/28/2009 10:57:01 AM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Ronald Reagan - Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just t)
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To: nickcarraway

This article sums up what buffoons Newsweek are.

McQueeg had his day in court and in the Congress to determine his eligibility. Obama may very well have been born in Hawaii but we want to see the proof as there is an element of doubt due to his background. All we want to see is the paperwork.

If Obama supported and believed in the Constitution he would have gladly showed the documentation. IMHO the way has acted he is thumbing his nose at the Constitution.


68 posted on 09/28/2009 11:01:34 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: nickcarraway

Question: Where is the OVERWHELMING evidence? Again, Newsweak lobbies for Communism, every week, every issue and every topic...


69 posted on 09/28/2009 11:03:12 AM PDT by wac3rd (Felipe Calderon supports the public option.)
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To: nickcarraway

But John produced a birth certificate when asked, he didn’t hide it.


70 posted on 09/28/2009 11:13:48 AM PDT by Cyclone59 (I ROCK, Guitar Hero said so........)
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To: nickcarraway; Just A Nobody; LucyT

Once more, lefties, drill this into your “intellectual” heads; stop throwing dust in people’s eyes.

Get this from a ghoster NOT a birther:

If you have an argument about the 0b0z0’s BC and NBC issues, diluting them with McCain and some previous ancient president, etc. FINE!

I want to see ALL his “OTHER” records, especially complete college and medical records. Is this too much to ask???

WHERE ARE THEY?

WHAT ARE YOU HIDING?

0B0Z0 IS PRESIDENT ALREADY, SO WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID OF?

CALL MY BLUFF AND FORGE SOME! LOL!

Signed
A lonely ghoster


71 posted on 09/28/2009 11:14:33 AM PDT by melancholy (Hey Marxists, don't Crap & Tread on me. Zer0's defeat is now in progress.)
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To: melancholy

I was just thinking about the medical records question... I mean the government will have access to EVERYONE’s complete medical records by 2014 — a LAW that Obama signed, but yet he won’t even show his to us???


72 posted on 09/28/2009 11:20:54 AM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: Phantom Lord
had his mother gone into labor and delivered while she was OFF base

Which I understand is exactly the case, he was born in a downtown hospital.

73 posted on 09/28/2009 11:26:28 AM PDT by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: PilotDave
Well, actually, Mclame was born off base. He was born in the Colon Hospital. Because of that he was elegible for Panamanian citizenship at birth. Because of that, you can argue that he was not elegible to be POTUS. I believe that neither major party candidate was constitionally elegible. Good Job major parties!

I am also one who doesn't believe that McCain is a natural born citizen either. I also believe that McCain's eligibility was investigated and the Senate resolution was passed to take attention OFF of Barry. The Obots knew Soetoro was "too big to fail" and had to win the election at all costs. Nicaraguan-born Roger Calero's candidacy was yet another distraction.

The Founding Fathers believed in "natural law" meaning that "every child born requires no act of law to establish the fact the child inherits through nature his/her father’s citizenship as well as his name (or even his property) through birth." There is a good definition of this here.

Hopefully this issue will flesh itself out with Barry because more danger lurks ahead if someone like, say, Bobby Jindal gets a future nomination. If he does there will a whole new generation of Jindal Birthers (even though he was born in the USA his parents were Indian citizens at the time of his birth) and we'll go through yet another flavor of this madness. One thing we can count on though, is that God is in control and has something to say about being ruled over by foreigners:

"...you shall surely set a king over you whom the LORD your God chooses, one from among your countrymen you shall set as king over yourselves; you may not put a foreigner over yourselves who is not your countryman." -Deuteronomy 17:15-
74 posted on 09/28/2009 11:27:28 AM PDT by thecraw (Follower of Jesus...American...Tennessean...Birther! You Betcha!)
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To: Rashputin
Could be that's why no one is asking now that the proof has been before a Congressional committee that was hoping to rule him out of the running.

Not really, the Senate merely voted a sense of the Senate that McCain was indeed a natural born citizen, they had for a while I think included Obama in the same resolution.

In any case a Sense of the Senate resolution has absolutely no effect of law.

75 posted on 09/28/2009 11:29:14 AM PDT by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: allmendream
“perhaps a small fringe” includes the entire U.S. Congress taking up the matter and declaring unequivocally that John McCain is a natural born citizen? An entire Congressional hearing over the matter was ‘perhaps a small fringe’?

This did not happen, period.

76 posted on 09/28/2009 11:31:31 AM PDT by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: nickcarraway
Anyone with a little knowledge knows it's an apples and oranges comparison.
77 posted on 09/28/2009 11:34:35 AM PDT by McGruff (Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency - Obama)
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To: MNJohnnie
Is this the left setting up to attrack Bobby Jindal? ... I mean, Bobby doesn't fit the NBC definition either.

The left has the scum-media as their fifth column enemy domestic at work daily ... and still no one seems able to build that needed guillotine to deal with the heads of enemedia.

78 posted on 09/28/2009 11:41:09 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: dodger

That’s a fact Jack!!


79 posted on 09/28/2009 11:41:27 AM PDT by devistate one four (Back by popular demand: America love or leave it (GTFOOMC) TET68)
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To: allmendream

Do you have a genuine copy of McCain’s legitimate long form BC which would show the exact location of his birth?


80 posted on 09/28/2009 11:42:35 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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