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Lefty, you said that GGG and those who think like him

"think the Earth is flat...and ....that no credible people believe that God pointed a finger at Earth and living creatures appeared suddenly, and no one believes the Earth is 6,000 , 10,000, or whatever-have-you years old."

Who is the flat earther and who is not? Do you also believe in global warming? Do you also believe that socialism is the way the world will prosper and mankind will advance? Do you also believe in the other ridiculous things these people teach? Think about where and who you stand beside and support. All the things these these people teach and support are similar to their theories in evolution. They are all lies that they have perpetrated to control the masses to get the world they want for us to live in. Either you agree with all their lies or not. For all their lies are totally based upon blind faith that has clouded their common sense just as their belief in evolution has.

See, I can turn this around on you and use your own argument against you. You practice a blind nonsensical faith, because you would rather believe men who have been proved to lie and obfuscate. You want to believe in men's wisdom, and the wisdom of men has been proven to be wrong time and time again.

Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you thinks that he is wise in this age, he must become foolish, so that he may become wise. 1Corinthians 3:18

Where is the wise man? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 1Corinthians 1:20

but God has chosen the foolish things of the world to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to shame the things which are strong, 1Corinthians 1:27

You can be as smart and wise as you desire when it comes to things of this world, but when you speak of God, you are speaking of the One who made the rules we must live by. Let me repeat that, we, not Him must live by. God is not bound by the simplicity of our minds nor the realm to which we live, because as I said He created the laws to which we are bound by.

In reality, your beef is not with those of us who claim to believe what the Scriptures tell us about what God did, your beef is with the One whom you think does not have the ability nor the right to do with that of which He created.

On the contrary, who are you, O man, who answers back to God? The thing molded will not say to the molder, "Why did you make me like this," will it? Romans 9:20

Ultimately, you are not in agreement that an all knowing, all powerful God who has the right to do what you cannot explain. So, you use arguments that have never been proven to be accurate, supported and promoted mostly by the very individuals whom you disagree with in almost every other aspect of human existence on this planet. I can only come to the conclusion, and forgive me for being so blunt, but it comes down to your desire to put God in a box that you can understand and explain.

You are not the only one to do such a thing, many men throughout history have decided that they would rather have a god that they can understand and agree with. Usually when men do this they come up with a God who thinks like men. Is it any wonder why Muhammad created a heaven that only a teenage boy in puberty could understand. Think about it?

Notice how many false religions, and even false Christian leaders, get all wrapped up into sex? Well even their idea of what heaven would be like is based upon their limited knowledge of what men think utopia would be like. Take Islam as an example. Muhammad has decided that he thinks heaven is a place where the men who qualify get 70 virgins, who become virgins again after they were deflowered. Joseph Smith decided that heaven was a place where women would be perpetually pregnant. (as an aside these two religions should get together, because one will need many virgins to replace the ones becoming pregnant) This is the type of logic you get when you put God in a box that men can understand, explain, and agree with. We as men are but children to God, and like children we can only fathom the partial knowledge that we have of everything.

For we know in part and we prophesy in part; but when the perfect comes, the partial will be done away. When I was a child, I used to speak like a child, think like a child, reason like a child; when I became a man, I did away with childish things. For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face; now I know in part, but then I will know fully just as I also have been fully known. 1Corinthians 13:9-12

When all we see and know is gone, then those who profess Christ as their Lord and Savior will understand as He does, because He will open our eyes. Then it will be for us as it was for Saul when the scales fell from his eyes and he saw the truth. We too will lose the scales that have us blinded our minds and limited us to this world of which our minds are bound.

you said that,"and no one believes the Earth is 6,000 , 10,000, or whatever-have-you years old."

You are wrong sire, I like GGG, and others whom you say are none, but in reality are truly millions, also believe that God is bigger, more powerful, and more awesome than you could imagine. So in God's ability, yes He could and yes He has, made all you see and all you can understand in 6 earthly human days. There is no disputing it, because if you do? Then you dispute with God not, men.

What you need to do, is allow God to open your eyes as He did for Elisha's servant, and then you may understand why so many of us believe that which you cannot fathom.

Now when the attendant of the man of God had risen early and gone out, behold, an army with horses and chariots was circling the city. And his servant said to him, "Alas, my master! What shall we do?" So he answered, "Do not fear, for those who are with us are more than those who are with them." Then Elisha prayed and said, "O LORD, I pray, open his eyes that he may see." And the LORD opened the servant's eyes and he saw; and behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire all around Elisha. 2Kings 6:15-17

It has been said that a mind is like an umbrella, it only works when it is open. I suggest you open your mind, and allow God to enlighten you beyond man's mere understanding of things.

Thank you for sharing your insights, dear brother in Christ!

In reality, your beef is not with those of us who claim to believe what the Scriptures tell us about what God did, your beef is with the One whom you think does not have the ability nor the right to do with that of which He created.

My beef is with people like you that do not believe in the abilities of God but limit Him to human views.

All the things these these people teach and support are similar to their theories in evolution. They are all lies that they have perpetrated to control the masses to get the world they want for us to live in. Either you agree with all their lies or not. For all their lies are totally based upon blind faith that has clouded their common sense just as their belief in evolution has.

Oh, you mean things like the earth is a sphere that revolves around the sun?

Well put, OneVike. Many of the evolution believers simply think that us doubters are nothing more than simpletons, like the caricature of the village idiot you see in an old movie. Myself, I grew up believing the evolution stories, I was always interested in science and I went to gifted schools and took AP science courses in high school, and engineering physics classes in college even though they weren’t a requirement for me. I got a perfect score in the science section of my ACT as well. I didn’t just decide one day to ignore everything I had been taught and believed for over 20 years without any reasoning.

When I became a Christian, I struggled with this issue for some time before I was forced to come to the conclusions that I hold know. I didn’t just open the Bible one day and say, “hey this 6,000 years business is a lot simpler than what scientists teach, I’m going to run with it!” No, I was led by the Lord to the truth of the matter, slowly but surely. Evolution is an affront to reason, and the only way that they are able to maintain the illusion that it is not, is by obscuring the gaping holes in their theory from the public. Every few months, their lapdogs like National Geographic will trot out a sensational story about a fossil, some circular reasoning-based genetic study, or a whimsical theory built on total speculation. All of this is simply to distract the masses from ever noticing the fundamental, irreconcilable problems that have existed with their theory since Darwin put his pen to paper.

Yet, the theory will continue to be accepted with little skepticism because it tells people what they want to hear. There is no God, you are not accountable to any higher power, so do as you please, as long as you don’t break the law (or get caught). Meanwhile, no matter how high they build their house of cards, they cannot wish away the existence of God, or the evidence of Him which exists, even in our own hearts. We who are blessed to have had our eyes opened can take solace in the fact that God has told us that He allows this folly to continue for it serves His purposes, not because it serves the selfish lusts of mankind.

I posted a specific critique regarding how creationists view the nature of scientific evidence for evolution and I get a lengthy response that is mostly Bible quotes and telling everyone about God.

That is the only thing important about the debate of creationism versus evolution. Creationists believe that the contents of the Bible are literally true and evolutionists rely on science to understand truth. It’s no more complicated than that and it’s the reason why there can be no real debate because there can be no compromise when deciding which standard to use - the Bible or science.