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Justice Clarence Thomas: Americans should emulate Lincoln
Richmond Times Dispatch ^ | 09/25/09 | SUE LINDSEY

Posted on 09/26/2009 2:45:33 PM PDT by HokieMom

LEXINGTON, Va. (AP) -- Americans must pay attention to challenges to democracy today just as Abraham Lincoln did by fiercely opposing slavery, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas told a conference on the 16th president's legacy Friday night.

"We are part of something far greater than ourselves," Thomas told more than 300 people at Washington and Lee University.

Many in Lincoln's time didn't realize the threat that slavery posed to the principles on which the nation was founded, Thomas said.

"What a miserable job he had. He wasn't popular," Thomas said, "but he did what was right."

Thomas received a standing ovation from the audience in Lee Chapel, where Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee is buried.

He told conference participants he isn't a Lincoln scholar, but admires him greatly.

"My interest in him has been deeply personal and long-standing," said Thomas, who grew up in segregated rural Georgia in the 1950s and 1960s. "We thought of him then as the great emancipator."

The 61-year-old Thomas is the Supreme Court's second black justice. The first was Thurgood Marshall, whom he replaced in 1991.

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TOPICS: Philosophy; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: abelincoln; clarencethomas; despot; dishonestabe; dixie; leechapel; scotus; tyrant; washingtonandlee
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To: central_va

“Illinois Butcher” sounds awesome! The Democrats got what they deserved; thanks to Lincoln, Democrats now talk about fleeing to Canada, instead of secession.


41 posted on 09/26/2009 5:28:35 PM PDT by JHBowden (Keep the Change!)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Waiting for the Lost Cause Brigade to arrive.

We are at Division strength and growing.

42 posted on 09/26/2009 5:39:28 PM PDT by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org/)
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To: JHBowden
even threw many Democrats in jail and shutting down their newspapers.

Yeah, that doesn't sound like a tyrant.

What part of "freedom of press" is confusing?

43 posted on 09/26/2009 5:49:26 PM PDT by GoldStandard
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To: JHBowden
got what they deserved; thanks to Lincoln

And Lincoln got his too.

44 posted on 09/26/2009 5:50:11 PM PDT by GoldStandard
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To: HokieMom

A dead white guy??


45 posted on 09/26/2009 5:51:53 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault
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To: autumnraine
See post 27, another Freeper knew what I was talking about.

I believe that Freeper was referring to Taney's likely reaction at the thought of a black man on the Supreme Court, or in any other position of authority.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig2/adams3.html

Yeah. That's a Southron myth without a shred of evidence to support it. And one way that you can tell is that not a single one of the biographies of Chief Justice Taney ever mention it. Not Charles Smith, who Adams quotes on other things. Not James F Simon, who wrote the most recent biography. Nobody. But I notice that y'all never let facts stand in the way of a good ol' Southron fairy tale.

46 posted on 09/26/2009 6:02:18 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Sherman Logan
A warrant for the arrest of Taney may have been issued, but he was not actually arrested or jailed.

Actually it wasn't even issued. When I read "Lincoln and Chief Justice Taney", I took the chance to email James Simon and tell him how much I enjoyed his book. I also asked him if he had found any evidence of any attempt to arrest Taney by Lincoln or anyone else. His answer was a definitive 'no', he had found no evidence at all supporting the claim.

47 posted on 09/26/2009 6:05:53 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: central_va
Checking in.

I thought you had seceded.

48 posted on 09/26/2009 6:07:07 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: central_va
But alas no, because of the Illinois Butcher™ we have to go down with the ship.

Nobody is forcing you to remain and go down with the ship. Delta flies both ways across the oceans you know.

FYI To Clarence, he was a racist of the worst sort.

I don't know if Lincoln was the worst sort of racist. Every Southern leader I can think of would give him a run for his money in that category.

49 posted on 09/26/2009 6:10:11 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

I did say “may.”

The claims I’ve seen have been secondary reports from purported participants decades after the events in question.

Nothing resembling actual documentary evidence has been found.

That said, a great many Americans of southern sympathies were indisputably committing treason, by the Constitution’s definition, during the War.

If the CSA was indeed a separate nation, as they claimed, then they were giving aid and comfort to their country’s enemy, to the extent in many cases of burning bridges, killing soldiers, etc.


50 posted on 09/26/2009 6:34:36 PM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: central_va
Surely the "worst sort" of racist would be an actual proponent of slavery and its expansion, making Lincoln only a "second worst sort." LOL

FYI, the actual number of white "non-racists" at the time would have been too small to count. Even most abolitionists were racist by today's standards.

To be a non-racist in the 1860s required rejection of the science of the time with regard to differences between the races. A very few succeeded in doing so, mostly due to their interpretation of the Bible.

51 posted on 09/26/2009 6:38:30 PM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: GoldStandard
What part of "freedom of press" is confusing?

How long do you think pro-Nazi newspapers would have been allowed to publish after Pearl Harbor? More importantly, do you think they should have been allowed to do so?

52 posted on 09/26/2009 6:40:14 PM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: HokieMom
Clarence, old buddy, this is not clear thinking....

I surely hope you are not succumbing to the "rabbit hole".
(Otherwise referred to as "inside-the-beltway mentality")....

53 posted on 09/26/2009 7:02:06 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: HokieMom
We should emulate Lincoln?

What? And be fascist dictators? No thanks!

54 posted on 09/26/2009 7:47:03 PM PDT by upstanding
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To: Sherman Logan

I don’t believe German newspapers have U.S. Constitutional protections.


55 posted on 09/26/2009 8:07:53 PM PDT by GoldStandard
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To: GoldStandard

Surely you realize I was posing the hypothetical of a pro-Nazi newspaper in the United States.


56 posted on 09/26/2009 8:10:34 PM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: Sherman Logan
On second reading, I think you meant in America.

I don't believe that was ever an issue. And there does seem to be a major difference between being on the side of a foreign country in a war and taking a side in a domestic dispute that represented over nine million Americans (the CSA states' population at the time.)

Regardless, I probably would ignore it. Rights are for everyone; it's too slippery a slope to let the government ever get its foot in the door deciding what is and is not acceptable.

57 posted on 09/26/2009 8:13:32 PM PDT by GoldStandard
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To: GoldStandard

The whole point is that the CSA claimed to be a foreign government and their supporters in the USA agreed. So they were by definition supporting a country at war with their own. IOW, it wasn’t a “domestic dispute” at all.


58 posted on 09/26/2009 8:17:07 PM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: HokieMom

Wonder if Justice Thomas knows Lincoln defended a slaveowner. Thomas should review Lincoln’s actions in anaconda plan blockade


59 posted on 09/26/2009 8:19:34 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner
Thomas should review Lincoln’s actions in anaconda plan blockade.

???

60 posted on 09/26/2009 8:23:32 PM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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