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"Birther" Infomercial Hits the Airwaves
CBS News ^ | 9/25/09 | Stephanie Condon

Posted on 09/25/2009 2:15:17 PM PDT by nickcarraway

The suspicion that President Obama was born outside of the United States has been written off as a conspiracy theory, but that hasn't stopped the so-called "birther" movement from keeping their theories alive.

A fundamentalist Christian Web site LivePrayer.com has produced a 28-minute infomercial dedicated to questioning where the president was born. It has run at least once on a CBS affiliate in Lubbock, Texas.

LivePrayer.com was founded by Christian minister Bill Keller, who committed his life to God after spending time in prison for insider trading, according to his site. The infomercial is also the work of attorney Gary Kreep, executive director of the birther group United States Justice Foundation, Talking Points Memo reports. He reportedly said the infomercial will run for at least two and a half weeks on stations around the country.

Mr. Obama has "vigorously fought.. to keep his birth information secret," Keller says in the program. "What is he hiding?"

The half hour spot encourages viewers to call a phone number to add their names to a list petitioning GOP leaders to "force President Obama to obey the law." In thanks for their support, viewers will receive a "Got a birth certificate?" bumper sticker. It also informs viewers that for just $30, they can have a fax sent on their behalf to all 50 state attorneys general and U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder demanding they force President Obama to supply his official State of Hawaii birth certificate.

"Join hundreds of thousands of Americans who simply want the truth," Keller says.

Keller may be right about the persistence of the rumor -- a recent poll showed that that 42 percent of Republicans believe Barack Obama was born outside of the United States while 22 percent said they were unsure.

And while the White House has, of course, dismissed the theory as "totally crazy," some Republicans have quietly perpetuated the myth. California Rep. John Campbell co-sponsored a bill (with at least nine others) requiring presidential candidates to submit a birth certificate and refused to give a straight answer when asked whether he believed the president was born in the United States.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: billkeller; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; conspiracytheory; constitution; infomercial; obama; pastor; usurper
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To: Non-Sequitur
Nope, Birthers is about as accurate as you can get.

And so is an Aporn employee as you as an "After-Birther"!!!

221 posted on 09/26/2009 11:42:20 AM PDT by danamco
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To: FrankR

They still have a Conservative leaning government!!!


222 posted on 09/26/2009 11:44:09 AM PDT by danamco
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To: mlo

Not with an underage mother and foreign Subject father, no way a NBC!!!


223 posted on 09/26/2009 11:49:32 AM PDT by danamco
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To: danamco
I love TROLLS. I eat one every day. It keeps the doctor away.

I have my ZOT device loaded and ready at all times.

My favorite saying: " Do you feel lucky today, TROLL?"

I borrowed it from Cint Eastwood. (Thanks Clint.)

224 posted on 09/26/2009 11:53:54 AM PDT by Candor7 (The effective weapons against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (Member NRA)
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To: Candor7

They are leaches like seminar callers on Rush’s show, “fooling” Sneardly by saying they are Conservatives, and when they get in, Rush expose and disarms them very shortly!!!


225 posted on 09/26/2009 11:56:44 AM PDT by danamco
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To: danamco

:D

afraid they look like us... every day people in the USA... hard to tell who is who until they start passing gas by opening their mouths ;)


226 posted on 09/26/2009 12:05:21 PM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: Candor7

I have my ZOT device loaded and ready at all times.





Just wish you (and the rest of us) could use it when needed...



227 posted on 09/26/2009 12:11:17 PM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: danamco
The Viking Kitties, ( is what the TROLL Hunters used to be called on FR.). I thought you woud like to know.I think Rush was one of their trainers.

viking kitties Pictures, Images and Photos

228 posted on 09/26/2009 12:14:15 PM PDT by Candor7 (The effective weapons against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (Member NRA)
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To: Bikkuri; LucyT
Rumor is that the TROLLs have infiltrated at the highest levels.We can use other weapons in the Kittie Bag.

That must change, for I do believe it hurts FRs fundraising.

229 posted on 09/26/2009 12:17:06 PM PDT by Candor7 (The effective weapons against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (Member NRA)
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To: Candor7

Darn... forgot to turn it to ZOT... oh well... guess I can be called “humanitarian” now :p


230 posted on 09/26/2009 12:18:12 PM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: Candor7

Good point.. being serious again... I remember a link from a few weeks ago talking about that exact thing... which, if I remember correctly was linked to a thread posted by JR about the planned (troll) attack on conservative sites (I think the link was from 2005 or 2006)..... but I have seen trolls here with a sign-up date dating back to 2001....

JR/Jim Thompson made a good call back then.. FR is a great place to keep up to date with REAL news compaired to what the MSM wants people to “know”.

(BTW... I’ve been here since 2003...)


231 posted on 09/26/2009 12:26:51 PM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: Candor7; Bikkuri; danamco

0-bots, trolls, double agents, and agent provocateurs try to disrupt, destroy or change newsgroups to fit their own agendas.

The often use such techniques as:

.flooding by excessive posting
.attacking regulars in a group
.attempting to divide and conquer
.threatening people
.spreading rumours
.violating newsgroup policies
.posting under many aliases

* Trolls often have Serious personal issues.

Trolls don’t hang around in newsgroups where people don’t respond to their rant.

The best way to deal with Trolls is to Ignore them.


232 posted on 09/26/2009 12:30:06 PM PDT by LucyT ("The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - M.Thatcher)
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* Trolls often have Serious personal issues.
233 posted on 09/26/2009 12:31:01 PM PDT by LucyT ("The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - M.Thatcher)
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To: LucyT

lol.. see you used the same definitions from my pic ;)... and I obviously agree :D


234 posted on 09/26/2009 12:31:43 PM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: Bikkuri

Your pic is great. I was searching for it, couldn’t locate it.


235 posted on 09/26/2009 12:34:30 PM PDT by LucyT ("The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - M.Thatcher)
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To: Bikkuri; Candor7; danamco; nickcarraway

The following is a list of Alinsky’s rules for upheaval, (click link for entire list):

RULE 1: “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.”

RULE 4: “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.”

RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.”

RULE 8: “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.”

RULE 12: “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”

Of these, Rules 4, 5, 8, and 12 have been used to greatest effect by the Left.

“If your opponent [has a hot temper], seek to irritate him. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them. Attack him where he is unprepared; appear where you are not expected.” (Book I, Verses 22-24)”

Barack Obama taught a class on using Alinsky principles to keep the nation in chaos. After all, it’s easier to get radical policies enacted during a crisis.

http://theconstitutionalalamo.com/2009/09/19/alinsky-vs-sun-tzu-how-ancient-strategy-can-be-used-against-the-liberal-left/


236 posted on 09/26/2009 12:37:21 PM PDT by LucyT ("The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - M.Thatcher)
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To: LucyT

You left off two of the favored trollish behaviors at FR, taunting and baiting.


237 posted on 09/26/2009 12:38:23 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN
Thanks, MHGinTN. It's worth repeating.

Two of the favored trollish behaviors at FR, taunting and baiting.

238 posted on 09/26/2009 12:42:38 PM PDT by LucyT ("The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - M.Thatcher)
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To: LucyT

reads like the bible... (King James).... sad they put it that way, but the apple always looks nice, say the serpent...

The first one I really noticed was #4... easily to send back with a kiss ;)

#5 is not like a true conserv... but it is gaining ground recently..

#8, same as #5

#12 We conservs are not known to do it this way... but it is starting to happen on almost a daily basis... (Man I love conserves finally speaking up)..

About the hot tempered part... it’s best to keep our cool, but use their strategy to the fullest in our moral value standards.. it can work.. and is working so far.

Bikk


239 posted on 09/26/2009 12:45:35 PM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: MHGinTN

good one... I will have to reinstall photoshop to make a new one with that included).. (maybe phil will beat me there)..


240 posted on 09/26/2009 12:47:38 PM PDT by Bikkuri
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