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Obamacare: Buy insurance or go to jail!
Politico.com ^ | 09/24/2009 | Politico.com

Posted on 09/25/2009 11:51:10 AM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour

Ensign receives handwritten confirmation This doesn't happen often enough.

Sen. John Ensign (R-Nev.) received a handwritten note Thursday from Joint Committee on Taxation Chief of Staft Tom Barthold confirming the penalty for failing to pay the up to $1,900 fee for not buying health insurance.

Violators could be charged with a misdemeanor and could face up to a year in jail or a $25,000 penalty, Barthold wrote on JCT letterhead. He signed it "Sincerely, Thomas A. Barthold."

The note was a follow-up to Ensign's questioning at the markup.

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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Imagine the Catholic Bishops supporting this garbage!! I am peeved by our local Catholic conference’s newsletter —we need health reform now, — WHY? WHY at the NATIONAL LEVEL?


61 posted on 09/25/2009 12:26:47 PM PDT by browniexyz
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To: aquila48
What other solutions do you have?

For starters, we could get back to what "insurance" is really for ... insuring against catastrophic events. Most states require car owners to carry liability insurance ... to protect a third party in the event of the driver's negligence. But many people CHOOSE to add comprehensive, collision, rental car, towing, etc. In other words, they tailor their policies to their own needs. Why do I, as a 60-year old woman with her tubes tied, need to have pregnancy care included in my health insurance? Most states also require that drivers keep "uninsured motorist" coverage, to cover the cost of damage from an uninsured driver.

Auto insurance is NOT used for ordinary maintenance, diagnostic testing, etc. Imagine what auto insurance would cost if "insurance" included routine care. People buy additional warranty or maintenance services if they want that stuff covered.

The same should be the case with health insurance. Let us decide what we want covered for ourselves. Add an "uninsured motorist" type of coverage, if necessary to cover the deadbeats in the ER.

Consumers and providers need to be in direct contact with each other. This is what keeps the costs in line.

62 posted on 09/25/2009 12:29:03 PM PDT by RightField (A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.)
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To: Marty62

re: So hardworking Americans are NOW going to be locked up in prisons with rapists and murderers.

Not exactly. The rapists and the murderers will have to be released because of prison overcrowding caused by the necessity of imprisoning all the hardworking Americans.


63 posted on 09/25/2009 12:30:34 PM PDT by Nevadan
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Well. ain’t that special?

Thanks Obama voters. I hope your ass ends up in the pokey.


64 posted on 09/25/2009 12:30:42 PM PDT by dforest (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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To: RightField

I am right there with you, RightField. ANd if this was about real reform, not just a tax increase and a power grab, such proposals would be seriously considered by Congress. Unfortunately, that is NOT where the discussion is.


65 posted on 09/25/2009 12:31:02 PM PDT by browniexyz
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To: dandiegirl

“According to this note, half of the democrats in congress should be in jail.”

Only half ?


66 posted on 09/25/2009 12:31:21 PM PDT by crescen7 (game on)
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To: Sparko; Publius

Thank you. Those words are prophetic.


67 posted on 09/25/2009 12:31:37 PM PDT by abishai
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To: Commander X

When did INSURANCE start running the world?


68 posted on 09/25/2009 12:32:22 PM PDT by Grumpybutt (Common Sense - where has it gone?)
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To: stockpirate

“It’s about freedom”

Freedom without personal responsibility is liberalism which given time becomes servitude.


69 posted on 09/25/2009 12:32:52 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
Violators could be charged with a misdemeanor and could face up to a year in jail or a $25,000 penalty, Barthold wrote on JCT letterhead. He signed it "Sincerely, Thomas A. Barthold."

The cool thing is...in jail you'd get three square meals, and free health care!!! If it weren't for getting a boyfriend out of the deal, too, it might be worth not paying.

70 posted on 09/25/2009 12:37:05 PM PDT by Fredgoblu
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To: MichiganConservative

“Imagine that - personal responsibility.”

I’m not talking about you or other responsible people - if everyone was personally responsible we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

I’m talking about the ones that are not - do you let them die if they act irresponsibly (get into an accident and don’t have insurance)?


71 posted on 09/25/2009 12:39:25 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: piasa

Well I say sooner rather than later.


72 posted on 09/25/2009 12:40:21 PM PDT by stockpirate ("I came NOT to bring peace but a sword." - Jesus Christ)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“Liars! and Commies! and Czars! Oh My!” - On a sign at the DC TEA party.


73 posted on 09/25/2009 12:41:50 PM PDT by CDFingers (Free Massachusetts!)
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To: aquila48

You bill them for whatever services they recieve and you make so they pay. For those who can’t afford treatment there are other means besides the government.


74 posted on 09/25/2009 12:42:13 PM PDT by stockpirate ("I came NOT to bring peace but a sword." - Jesus Christ)
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To: aquila48

“liberalism”

Liberalism has nothing to do whatsoever with freedom, in fact it is the opposite of freedom.


75 posted on 09/25/2009 12:43:34 PM PDT by stockpirate ("I came NOT to bring peace but a sword." - Jesus Christ)
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To: aquila48
If I understand our current thinking, it is impossible to have a country or a society without health insurance. In fact, there have never been countries or societies before the invention of health insurance.

I'm pretty sure doctors, nurses and medicine were all invented by health insurance which then invented countries and societies.

There is no way our country can survive without health insurance. And there is no other solution than mandatory health insurance because no one anywhere in the world has or ever will be able to survive without it. It has never happened b/c it simply can't happen.

If you really think about it, health insurance is more important than food and water. It is so important, that no one could ever be expected to have it on their own.

Unless we force every American to have health insurance, we are doomed. It'll be the apocalypse. Have I missed anything?

76 posted on 09/25/2009 12:45:01 PM PDT by GBA
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To: aquila48

What everyone else said: it’s about liberty, beside, it’s uconstitutional (mandates), I’d soon rather..than pay their unconstitutional liberty grabbing tax!

If you are so worried about me being a “deadbeat” don’t, I would rather pay my debt (whether it takes 100 years) than to make YOU pay it!


77 posted on 09/25/2009 12:46:57 PM PDT by JSDude1 (www.wethepeopleindiana.org (Tea Party Member-Proud), www.travishankins.com (R- IN 09 2010!))
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
At this risk of getting flamed, I have worked in hospitals and the cost of indigent care is in fact borne by all of us taxpayers. Here is just one example that a quick web search turned up:

Since 1983, New York State has set aside a pool of money to underwrite a portion of the uncompensated care costs incurred by hospitals. Initially termed the Hospital Bad Debt and Charity Care (BDCC) Pool and more recently the Hospital Indigent Care Pool (the Pool), this Pool currently distributes $847 million in Medicaid funds to public and voluntary hospitals through multiple sub-Pools and multiple allocation formulas.

78 posted on 09/25/2009 12:48:19 PM PDT by X. OTerica
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To: FlingWingFlyer

It’s time to overthrow this corrupt government.


79 posted on 09/25/2009 12:51:13 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (The AFL-CIO and SEIU.....two domestic terrorist organizations doing Obama's dirty work for him.)
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To: Publius

Sounds a little too familiar.


80 posted on 09/25/2009 12:54:17 PM PDT by PowerPro (2009 - Conservative Revolution Reborn (Go Palin!))
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