Posted on 09/24/2009 6:08:52 AM PDT by xcamel
William Dembski, the “intelligent design” creationist who is a professor in philosophy at Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in Fort Worth, Texas, has some rather interesting requirements for students of his creationism courses — 20% of their final grade comes from having written 10 posts promoting ID on “hostile” websites: Academic Year 2009-2010.
Spring 2009
Intelligent Design (SOUTHERN EVANGELICAL SEMINARY #AP 410, 510, and 810; May 11 – 16, 2009)
NEW! THE DUE DATE FOR ALL WORK IN THIS COURSE IS AUGUST 14, 2009. Here’s what you will need to do to wrap things up:
AP410 — This is the undegrad [sic] course. You have three things to do: (1) take the final exam (worth 40% of your grade); (2) write a 3,000-word essay on the theological significance of intelligent design (worth 40% of your grade); (3) provide at least 10 posts defending ID that you’ve made on “hostile” websites, the posts totalling 2,000 words, along with the URLs (i.e., web links) to each post (worth 20% of your grade).
AP510 — This is the masters course. You have four things to do: (1) take the final exam (worth 30% of your grade); (2) write a 1,500- to 2,000-word critical review of Francis Collins’s The Language of God — for instructions, see below (20% of your grade); (3) write a 3,000-word essay on the theological significance of intelligent design (worth 30% of your grade); (4) provide at least 10 posts defending ID that you’ve made on “hostile” websites, the posts totalling 3,000 words, along with the URLs (i.e., web links) to each post (worth 20% of your grade).
I didn't read the manual that says you're the final authority on Christianity. Maybe it's you that needs to get over yourself.
I’d have long since had two or three PHD’s under that system.....
That's a matter of opinion and since this isn't your website and the owner sees fit to let it stay where it's put, he apparently agrees that it is news as well.
If you're so put out about these threads and where they're placed, why do you hang out on FR?
Why do you post on these threads?
Why don't you mosey on back to DC where stuff like this isn't even permitted?
The irony of all this is that evos are allowed far more freedom in posting on FR than they'd ever dream of allowing creationists or IDers on DC and all they do is come over here and complain about how bad they have it, and how this isn't right and that isn't right.
I guess evos are just going to have to live with the fact that they aren't going to be able to hijack the best forum on the internet and turn it into DC Lite.
Sucks to be them.
What some cheese with that whine?
I was told "We can talk about whatever we want to talk about." Did that change?
[[I went back through the posts leading up to this one and there’s nothing in it makes your statement make any sense.]]
He isn’t making any sense- He’s just whining about Christian views being posted in the news section, and wants to shut down our ability to do so in the future- they think if they whine enough about Christian news or opinions being posted in anyhtign but the religion forum, that they can control who sees what on FR- As I said- it’s a new tactic being employed by the evos these days- tryign to censure Christian views in anyhtign but hte religion forum- they whine on and on about GGG posting Christian news and science i nthe news section- and lately, they are becommign insufferable about the issue despite beign informaed by JR many times and hte mods that GGG has permission to post what he wants where he wants- the evos just can’t accept that this isn’t hteir forum to control as they see fit- soem have even gone so far as to suggest that just because they donate to FR that they shoudl have ‘the right’ not to have to view Christian opinions or articles outside of hte religion forum-
Apparently, their positions are so fragile that they just can’t take any criticism or view any sceince which refutes their position, so their only recourse apparently is to whine about issues like htis
[[I didn’t read the manual that says you’re the final authority on Christianity.]]
Then you didn’t read God’s word- (Not that you think it’s His word apaprently) Error is error, and I am free to point that out and refute the false accusations and petty claims regardless of whether you approve or not- Again- get over yourself
You're making less sense than ever.
Where'd that come from? What are you claiming I'm agreeing to?
The only thing I seconded was the *What the heck are you talking about?* question.
First of all Evolution does NOT address how life started. It never has. Creves bring that up as a strawman.
Wrong. As has been explained and re-explained too many times to count, you didn’t get the memo.
Bezerkly evolution 101 makes it a point to address origins.
And I'm free to tell you I don't worship a book.
Yeah, that's pretty obvious.
Who decided that news has to be only secular to be classified as such, I wonder?
Okay. I believe that scientific claims based on evidence known to be false should be considered criminal fraud. Do you find that a resonable proposition?
[[The irony of all this is that evos are allowed far more freedom in posting on FR than they’d ever dream of allowing creationists or IDers on DC and all they do is come over here and complain about how bad they have it, and how this isn’t right and that isn’t right.]]
Precisely- but apparently they aren’t content over on DC where everyone slaps em on the back everytime they diss a Christian or creationist or IF person, they feel they must control FR apparently because they are afraid peopel are goign to see how badly damaged their hypothesis of Macroevolution really is- they think if they can control FR, and get anythign Creationist or ID stuffed into the religion forum where fewer people visit, then their position won’t suffer as badly? Again, this tactic just further points out how fragile their position really is- it’s liek the ‘fairness doctrine’ (which of course is ANYTHING but fair)- they control over 90% of hte media, but that 10% controlled by the right apaprently is too much loss of control for them- they feel they must dictate that 10% as well-
What’s that got to do with the discussion? Where did that come from?
[[And I’m free to tell you I don’t worship a book.]]
Why Yes, Yes indeedy you are fella- and I’m free to call you to the carpet when you claim to represent ANYTHING in the book you feel free not to worship- See? We’re all free (not that you’d have it that way if you had your own way apaprently)
Well, in light of Piltdown Man, archaeoraptor, Lucy, and other frauds, that might not be such a bad proposition.
Considering the amount of fraud that goes on in the scientific community, that'll come back to bite them.
Who made you the moderator in decidng what is or isn't news?
If you really want to know, follow the arguments I'm trying to present. If you've already figured it out, and don't want the converstaion to go there, then keep asking that same question over and over again.
Can you show us where you have challenged your side of the aisle with the myriad petty and false claims...or are you just wasting everyone's time again?
What cracks me up is that this thread was posted by the evos!
Considering the amount of fraud that goes on in the scientific community, that'll come back to bite them.
If the literal account of Genesis is "Fact", then any theory that disagrees with it is based on evidence known to be false - arguably a criminal offense.
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