Posted on 09/23/2009 8:15:42 PM PDT by BP2
WASHINGTON - Senate Finance Committee Democrats have just rejected a GOP amendment that would have required a health overhaul bill to be available online for 72 hours before the committee votes.
Republicans argued that transparency is an Obama administration goal. They also noted that their constituents are demanding that they read bills before voting.
Democrats said it was a delay tactic that could have postponed a vote for weeks.
The Democrats say that unlike other committees, the Finance Committee works off conceptual language that describes policies instead of legislative language that ultimately becomes law, and which the GOP amendment would have required. Democrats accepted an alternate amendment to make conceptual language available online before a vote.
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I mean the Finance Committee could vote for black, then put out legalese that says white, and that would be A-OK.
(Not that they will read it before voting.) EXACTLY — and therein lies the problem! As we've already seen with the Stimulus Bills and Cap & Trade, Senators DO NOT read the Bills they pass — especially the 1000-plus page Bills — WE DO. And that's what scares them. Senator Kerry — who served in Vietnam — said today that they don't want to post the Bill and its revisions online because it is too complex and uses too much legalese. WTF? It's OBVIOUS — they want the American people to have as LITTLE TIME AS POSSIBLE to review the Bill out of the Senate before they pass it. Gosh — I wonder why... I expect no different from the House when they get the Bill back from the Senate for review — Pelosi will push to use the Dem majority in the Committees to change internal procedural rules, too, to minimize review time of the 1000-page ObamaCare Bill by the American people. That's why we have to put our big foot down and say, "NO, you don't!" |
“Senate Dems vote to hide full text of ObamaCare online before vote”
Some resourceful Repulicans should introduce a law that “ignorance
of the law is no excuse” is NOT in effect when a law is not published
in full with public access at least five business days before the
final vote.
This act of the perfidious Democrats tell you all you need to know.
They are AFRAID of having their clap-trap legislation debated.
Or even letting this Frankenstein of a bill see the light of day
before they get it passed via “the nuclear option” of reconciliation.
Theoretically, yes. But the full Senate would be voting on the white legalese, and if they pass it, then it will have to go to the House and be debated there. And the House might not like the white version. And before you know it, the thing’s chartreuse.
No Worries!!!...Mitch is on the scene... (rolling eyes)
Kerry served in Vietnam? I had no idea.
You’d think he would have mentioned it...
This affects nearly 20% of our economy. It affects us in a very personal way, as well as our family members.If we don’t fight and win on this one, the republic is lost I fear.
If they pass it, the real fight begins.
This is actually kind of fitting, since the people who voted for Obammie the Commie didn’t vote for any detailed plan, just a conceptual politician.
I hope they enjoy being conceptually used and conceptually misled. Those details that actually comprise the law can be pesky things.
Democrat health care concepts:
1. Everyone will get a bunch of stuff for free
2. It will cost taxpayers nothing
3. If you have good insurance now, it will get even better and it will cost you nothing.
4. Everything is gonna be just great
How do you vote?
This is the text of an email that I received from my cousin in Houston, Texas. I’m not sure where he got it. Please watch the videos and share with others.
Email Text:
This is one of the best things we have seen on Obamacare
The YouTube links below are Part 1 and 2 of a tape made by a cousin of friends of mine. He and his wife made the tape from their ranch in south central Texas .
At their own expense, they made 1000 copies and sent one to every single congressman and senator and some media outlets.
Let’s hope that each and every one of them watched and LISTENED!!!
Part 1 www.YouTube.com/watch?v=j7sQHunYdN8
Part 2 www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MJsF11PsnQ
Today, Senate Democrats in the Finance Committee rejected a
Republican move to require that the full text of the Baucus
government-controlled healthcare bill be posted for 72 hours
prior to a vote.
Democrats are fast-tracking the bill through committee,
insisting that Senators vote on the bill WITHOUT seeing
the actual language of the legislation.
In fact, Democrats were making their point by mocking those who
wanted to actually READ the bill before voting!
Sen. Kerry said, “Legislative language is relatively
arcane, very legalistic, and most people don’t read the
legislative language.”
THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS!
Especially since it is clear that ObamaCare is really nothing
more than a cover for a massive takeover of huge sectors of our
economy that transfers power to the Obama Administration!
Karen, I need you to take fast-action right now...
Action Item #1 — Fax Senate Finance Committee
The fast-tracked vote in the Finance Committee will take place
this week. Even if you have done so already, we are urging all
team members to schedule faxes to their two senators and the
key members of the Senate Finance Committee TODAY.
Go here to schedule your faxes:
http://www.grassfire.net/r.asp?U=21660&CID=122&RID=21415732
If you prefer to send faxes on your own we’ve done all the work
for you. Simply click here to download targets and letters now:
http://www.grassfire.net/r.asp?U=21661&CID=122&RID=21415732
Sen. Baucus (Chair): 202-224-2651
Finance Committee: 202-224-4515
Who in hell made him Minority Leader in the Senate?
You forgot #5:
“Don’t worry - be happy!”
Just like the 70s....
CA....
This is unconstitutional. IF the law doesn’t matter anymore, then nothing they pass matters either. The several states MUST reel in federal power.
Thanks for the comments. I amend my democrat health care concepts list:
Democrat health care concepts:
1. Everyone will get a bunch of stuff for free
2. It will cost taxpayers nothing
3. If you have good insurance now, it will get even better and it will cost you nothing.
4. Everything wrong with health care is the fault of greedy rich people and greedy insurance companies.
5. Although there will be no extra taxes or fees, the extra taxes and fees will only apply to people like Leona Helmsly and insurance companies.
6. Everything is gonna be just great.
7. Don’t worry. Be happy. Just go watch Survivor. We’ll take care of you.
How do you vote?
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