RIFQA BARY CASE – CAIR TELLS COURT: “NO HONOR KILLINGS IN ISLAM”

The Last Crusade ^ | Sept.22, 2009 | Paul L. Williams, Ph.D.

[Psion]

What Islamic Terrorism???

Fate of 17-Year-Old Fathima Sealed

by

Paul L. Williams, Ph.D.

thelastcrusade.org

The lawyers for Aysha and Mohamed Bary, the parents of Fathima Rifqa Bary, the 17 year-old Muslim girl who converted to Christianity, assured Orange County District Court today that there is no such thing as honor killing in Islam.

Romin Iqbal assured Circuit Judge Daniel Dawson that such killings are “cultural and tribal” and are not related to “the Islamic religious practice.”

No one in court took issue with Iqbal’s statement, despite the fact that Islamic law clearly calls for the killing of anyone who abandons faith in Allah. “The blood of a Muslim,” the great Sunni jurist Muhammad al Bukhari writes, “may be legally spilt if he turns from Islam and the Muslim community.”

Iqbal and the other attorneys representing the parents are employees of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, an organization that has been named by the Department of Justice as a sponsor of terror.

Yet no court official has questioned the legitimacy of CAIR lawyers and its history of obfuscation.

“CAIR has spoken,” a court observer quipped, “the case is over. We can all go home.”

[cameraeye]

There is no honor killings. Just murder.

[beethovenfan]

Pray for this girl!

[Psion]

I have been praying for her since I first heard about the situation.

[Dr.Zoidberg]

RIFQA BARY CASE – CAIR TELLS Admits in COURT: “NO HONOR KILLINGS IN ISLAM”

[BCW]

there is no such thing as honor killing in Islam...

BULLSH*T!

...a few years backa little girl in Najaf (the major holy city for Shia) had her throat sliced by her father after she was seen talking to US soldiers about getting burn treatment materials for her younger brother...they found her body in a trash dump!

CAIR is a terrorist organization and this girl should be surrounded by Christians and protected!

[GCC Catholic]

We need to keep the pressure on ALL of the LIARS:

CAIR (in this case)
0bama and ACORN (in others)
etc.

[luvbach1]

Is lying a tribal, cultural, or Islamic practice?

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

APOSTATES AND "young people with foolish thoughts"
TO BE KILLED BY ANYONE WHO FINDS THEM (e.g. honor killings):

KORAN [4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:260] Narrated Ikrima:
Ali burnt some people and this news reached Ibn 'Abbas, who said, "Had I been in his place I would not have burnt them, as the Prophet said, 'Don't punish (anybody) with Allah's Punishment.' No doubt, I would have killed them, for the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [6:61:577] Narrated 'Ali:
I heard the Prophet saying, "In the last days (of the world) there will appear young people with foolish thoughts and ideas. They will give good talks, but they will go out of Islam as an arrow goes out of its game, their faith will not exceed their throats. So, wherever you find them, kill them, for there will be a reward for their killers on the Day of Resurrection."

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [9:84:64] Narrated 'Ali:
Whenever I tell you a narration from Allah's Apostle, by Allah, I would rather fall down from the sky than ascribe a false statement to him, but if I tell you something between me and you (not a Hadith) then it was indeed a trick (i.e., I may say things just to cheat my enemy). No doubt I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "During the last days there will appear some young foolish people who will say the best words but their faith will not go beyond their throats (i.e. they will have no faith) and will go out from (leave) their religion as an arrow goes out of the game. So, where-ever you find them, kill them, for who-ever kills them shall have reward on the Day of Resurrection."

[Uncle Miltie]

WARNING: GRAPHIC IMAGES

[EdReform]

Crush islam Ping

[Mrs. Don-o]

The killing of apostates (which is what Rifqa is, in Muslim eyes) is called for in the Koran (verses, 2:217 and 4:89) and endorsed by all Islamic schools of jurisprudence.

I suppose CAIR is right on a technicality. It wouldn't be called an "honor" killing in Islam. It would be called the penalty for apostasy. Not in the Koran, but in the Hadiths, Muhammad repeatedly said "Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him." Thus the words "honor killing" are not found in the "Koran," but --- the killing of apostates is found in the Hadith, and supported throughout 1400 years' worth of Islamic law to this very day.

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

The entire American government, top to bottom, officials great and small, has become a den of vipers and can only get worse from now on.

[crazyotto]

piss on the koran

[onedoug]

...like some horrible disease....

[EdReform]

Is lying a tribal, cultural, or Islamic practice?/i>

Taqiyya and kitman: The role of Deception in Islamic terrorism

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

Is lying a tribal, cultural, or Islamic practice?

Unlike Christians, Muslims can pretend to deny their faith to fool unbelievers (Al-Taqiyyah):
KORAN [16.106] He who disbelieves in Allah after his having believed, not he who is compelled while his heart is at rest on account of faith, but he who opens (his) breast to disbelief-- on these is the wrath of Allah, and they shall have a grievous chastisement.

THIS IS MUHAMMAD'S EXAMPLE JUSTIFYING THE KILLING OF DUTCH FILM MAKER THEO van GOGH
(including permission to lie about their faith in order to get close to their victim):
Hadith Sahih Muslim, Book 19, Chapter 41: THE MURDER OF KA'B B. ASHRAF, (THE EVIL GENIUS) OF THE JEWS [for authoring songs and jokes about Muhammad]

HADITH Sahih Muslim [19:4436] It has been narrated on the authority of Jabir that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said:
Who will kill Ka'b b. Ashraf? He has maligned Allah, the Exalted, and His Messenger. Muhammad b. Maslama said: Messenger of Allah, do you wish that I should kill him? He said: Yes. He said: Permit me to talk (to him in the way I deem fit). He said: Talk (as you like). So, Muhammad b. Maslama came to Ka'b and talked to him, referred to the old friendship between them and said: This man (i. e. the Holy Prophet) has made up his mind to collect charity (from us) and this has put us to a great hardship. When be heard this, Ka'b said: By God, you will be put to more trouble by him. Muhammad b. Maslama said: No doubt, now we have become his followers and we do not like to forsake him until we see what turn his affairs will take. I want that you should give me a loan. He said: What will you mortgage? He said: What do you want? He said: Pledge me your women. He said: You are the most handsome of the Arabs; should we pledge our women to you? He said: Pledge me your children. He said: The son of one of us may abuse us saying that he was pledged for two wasqs of dates, but we can pledge you (cur) weapons. He said: All right. Then Muhammad b. Maslama promised that he would come to him with Harith, Abu 'Abs b. Jabr and Abbad b. Bishr. So they came and called upon him at night. He came down to them. Sufyan says that all the narrators except 'Amr have stated that his wife said: I hear a voice which sounds like the voice of murder. He said: It is only Muhammad b. Maslama and his foster-brother, Abu Na'ila. When a gentleman is called at night even it to be pierced with a spear, he should respond to the call. Muhammad said to his companions: As he comes down, I will extend my hands towards his head and when I hold him fast, you should do your job. So when he came down and he was holding his cloak under his arm, they said to him: We sense from you a very fine smell. He said: Yes, I have with me a mistress who is the most scented of the women of Arabia. He said: Allow me to smell (the scent on your head). He said: Yes, you may smell. So he caught it and smelt. Then he said: Allow me to do so (once again). He then held his head fast and said to his companions: Do your job. And they killed him.



Hope that clears it up for you.

[batter]

How long until she turns 18? At that point this will be moot, anyway.

[Man50D]

CAIR is is implementing Al Taquiyya which justifies lying to non muslims.

[Godwin1]

Well, whatever one calls it, they certainly kill “apostates”, as well as women who offend husbands fathers or brothers.