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Unbelievable that Biden makes this trial balloon announcement/decision? because 0bama can't vote 'present.'
1 posted on 09/23/2009 5:47:08 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Defeat isn’t a strategy.


2 posted on 09/23/2009 5:48:27 AM PDT by SampleMan (No one should die on a gov. waiting list., or go broke because the gov. has dictated their salary.)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

I’m no military expert but it seems to me the time to “explore alternatives” has long passed. Why is this just now happening? Wasn’t there some vociferous exploring of alternatives by this administration during last year’s campaign?


4 posted on 09/23/2009 5:51:52 AM PDT by austinaero ((More Bark, Less Wag))
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Obama Is Considering Strategy Shift in is waffling on Afghan War

There, fixed it.

5 posted on 09/23/2009 5:52:22 AM PDT by Eddie01 (freep)
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scale back American forces and focus more on rooting out Al Qaeda... What a strategy! 'Scale back' to 'focus more'. I'm thinking of 'scaling back' working in my yard, so I can 'focus more' on landscaping.
7 posted on 09/23/2009 5:53:47 AM PDT by bobsatwork
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to scale back American forces and focus more on rooting out Al Qaeda there and in Pakistan,

Could we call this a "police action" (aka Vietnam).

8 posted on 09/23/2009 5:53:51 AM PDT by Need4Truth (Quarentine DC)
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Part of the core problem is that Afghanistan is not a country the way France or Brazil or the U.S. is - it is as tribal as they come - a patchwork of ethnic conflict. However, the one thing that can unify the tribes long enough to stop shooting at each other is a common enemy, and bringing in too many troops might just provide a sense of occupation that could unite them.

I'm really not sure just what can work there - the Soviets went in with no holds barred and got kicked out (with some US logistical help). Iran and others stand ready to give the Taliban and other groups similar help. This is a very difficult situation. The problem is, we have rank amatuers trying to come to grips with it - and they are so weak that political factors come in well ahead of practical/military factors.

9 posted on 09/23/2009 5:53:57 AM PDT by dirtboy
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10 posted on 09/23/2009 5:54:11 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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including a plan advocated by Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. to scale back American forces

Haven't we learned anything about allowing politicians to control a war rather than generals? I think that happened before.
11 posted on 09/23/2009 5:54:29 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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Here we go- today’s meat (actually more like a cold chicken nugget) tossed by Rahmbo and Axelrod at their morning briefing to the state-run media - for dissemination without attribution

“Joe has a plan”


13 posted on 09/23/2009 5:55:30 AM PDT by silverleaf (If we are astroturf, why are the democrats trying to mow us?)
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Rahm Emanuel using Joe Biden as a trial ballon boy again?


14 posted on 09/23/2009 5:55:44 AM PDT by niteowl77 (You wanted him, and now you have got him. I say, "Good day to you," America.)
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obama, has no fear of spending money, so spend it !

Take the gloves off and win the damn thing.

16 posted on 09/23/2009 5:57:13 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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Prayers to those boots on the ground over there.


17 posted on 09/23/2009 5:57:42 AM PDT by BillyBonebrake
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Weakness. Obama can’t even stand up to the most radical in his administration.

If we keep up the pressure with the Tea Parties perhaps we can force him to back town. He is weak.


19 posted on 09/23/2009 5:58:59 AM PDT by o_zarkman44
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Obama Is Considering Strategy Shift in Afghan War

He is going to shift from neglect to failure just like most of his policies.

21 posted on 09/23/2009 6:00:27 AM PDT by paulycy (Screw the RACErs.)
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Obama is using the Bruce Lee strategy - way is no way, strategy is no strategy!!


22 posted on 09/23/2009 6:03:20 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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Obama Is Considering Strategy Shift in Afghan War

Zerø has a strategy?

23 posted on 09/23/2009 6:04:46 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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I just have a simple question - why, in almost ten years time, have we not been able to create an Afghan military capable of protecting the government and defending it against the taliban?


24 posted on 09/23/2009 6:06:57 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Welcome to the Revolution.)
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Yeah, that'll work out just awesome!

Turn a blind eye to the Taliban, let them run roughshod over Afghanistan, while we try to cherry pick al Q, repeatedly going across the border to Pak.

What a great idea!

And if, for some inconceivable reason, it doesn't work, plan B can be surrender.

25 posted on 09/23/2009 6:07:24 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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Too few troops so time to scale down forces? IMO we have enough forces and firepower there now if they were allowed to wage, as nearly as feasible, all-out, no holds barred war, ala WWII. Were there civilian casualties in WWII? Of course, lots of them. Was the enemy allowed refuge among civilians? Of course not. And were there sanctuaries which were off limits? Again, of couse not. So long as the ROE make our (and allied) troops hesitant to attack locations known to harbor the enemy, can fire only when fired upon (restrictions unheard of in WWII), and the enemy is allowed off-limits sanctuaries, the war can’t be won no matter how many troops are sent.


27 posted on 09/23/2009 6:08:37 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Worse than we could have imagined.)
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BO has ordered his white flag from the French. He has not idea how to fight a war but he can dig up voters along with ACORN.


30 posted on 09/23/2009 6:10:28 AM PDT by Piquaboy (Military veteran of 22 years in Navy, Air Force, and Army.)
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