Catholic, pro-life, pro-Obama

Times of Malta ^ | Sunday, 20th September 2009 | Anthony Manduca

[presidio9]

Douglas Kmiec has all the characteristics one would expect of an American ambassador (to malta - a small island off the coast of Sicily with a 99% devout Catholic population -P9) appointed by Barack Obama: intelligent, academic, articulate, soft-spoken and a strong believer in consensus, dialogue and engagement.

The Pepperdine University professor of constitutional law is also a devout pro-life Catholic who worked in the Office of Legal Counsel for President Ronald Reagan and until recently considered himself to be a Republican.

Why then did he endorse Barack Obama, who is in favour of keeping abortion legal, for President, when he wrote a book in 2008, entitled Can a Catholic Support Him?

"Barack Obama was someone who caught my attention in 2006 when he gave a speech at a conference called the sojourner's conference. It demonstrated to me someone of great discernment, someone who understood that one of the things that had gone wrong in our country was political figures unthinkingly using people's faith as a basis to divide them from one another. Obama says we should understand the significance of faith to every person," he says.

Even if we believe that our faith understanding is true, Obama had said, we can't simply expect it to be automatically enacted into law because we believe it.

"I thought he was by virtue of those remarks someone who had both a deep faith himself and was capable of understanding the difference among people and having empathy for that difference," Prof. Kmiec says.

After that speech, Prof. Kmiec was invited to a meeting in Chicago of faith leaders, where many people were opposed to Mr Obama on several matters "including myself on the question of how the life issue should be handled".

He says Obama opened this meeting in a remarkable way, saying: "Alright, give me as good as you've got. Give me your best arguments. I know there is disagreement but I want to see whether there is source for common ground."

By the end of the meeting, Prof. Kmiec says, everyone realised that this was a man of humility, great intelligence and capable of listening.

"These were qualities I believed were much need in America in the Oval Office. I believe I saw some of those same qualities in Ronald Reagan in a different time, with a different emphasis," he says.

Even though there were areas of disagreement, Mr Obama pointed out the responsibility of government to provide a family wage, to care for the environment and to provide healthcare for the uninsured.

"When I thought about all these things, I thought 'this is my catechism come to life' because we are called to each of these things in the social teachings of the Church."

It is for that reason, Prof. Kmiec says, that he was convinced he had found a person of intelligence who had articulated a set of views and policies he could easily support.

Prof. Kmiec's views on abortion have certainly not changed since he was appointed an ambassador by the Obama administration.

"I believe life begins at conception, in the womb, and is to be protected there as it is to be protected at every moment throughout the progression of life," he emphasises.

He was disappointed when the US Supreme Court legalised abortion in 1973 and for some 30 plus years, as an advocate in the judicial system, including when he worked for Mr Reagan in the White House, he wrote briefs and made arguments seeking to reverse the law on that question.

"Of course it hasn't happened; year after year, millions die in those awful procedures."

He recalls how he told Mr Obama during the campaign: "How can you allow someone to terminate another person's life? What moral authority do you have for that?"

Mr Obama replied: "Well, professor, not everyone sees life beginning in the same way. The Methodists see it differently, the Jewish faith in part sees it differently." And he went through the list, Presbyterians and so forth.

"If I am elected President," he told Prof. Kmiec, "I am President of all these people."

Prof. Kmiec says Mr Obama told him that he views abortion as "a moral tragedy" and that there were two ways of addressing it. There is the law in which people who involved themselves in this procedure would be subject to a penalty. The Supreme Court has put that off limits.

The other way is to do something about it and look at what causes people to have an abortion.

Mr Obama asked Prof. Kmiec: "What would cause a mother to contemplate taking the life of a child? It has to be something awful. It has to be a woman without shelter, without insurance, without the next meal on the table."

Prof. Kmiec admits that this approach to abortion is not the ideal solution, saying that poverty or not being married is no excuse to take the life of a child. However, he believes one should be realistic about the problem and if the abortion rate could be reduced - and some studies point out that tackling poverty could lead to fewer abortions - "this seems to me a good interim step".

"I prayed on this," he explains, pointing out that Pope John Paul II had said that Catholics must be clear on their stand on abortion but also that people in political life could sometimes do less than they would like to do as long as there were moves towards the protection of life.

"Mr Obama has taken some steps towards this, perhaps not as fast as some would like," he says.

Prof. Kmiec denies American media reports, however, which claimed the Vatican had rejected his nomination as the next US Ambassador to the Holy See.

"These reports were a surprise to both the President and me. During the campaign I was doing faith-related issues for Mr Obama and along the way a reporter by the name of John Allen said he thought I would make a good Ambassador to the Holy See. Once it got out to the blogosphere it sort of took on a life of its own. I know the President really did not have that in mind, nor of course did I support the President with any expectation for that posting or any posting for that matter."

He defends the fact that, in last year's presidential campaign, he first supported Mitt Romney, the Republican former governor of Massachusetts, before switching to Mr Obama.

"Mr Romney is a Mormon and Mormons are known for their commitment to the family. I admired that above all as well as his background as a financial wizard. We could see the dark clouds on the horizon as far as the financial situation was concerned and, as Governor, Mr Romney had worked through some difficult corporate questions," he says.

Prof. Kmiec believes Mr Romney was rejected largely because of his faith, which was a great disappointment to him. He says both Mr Romney and Mr Obama had sincere commitments to family and faith, even though there are substantial differences between the two on aspects of social policy.

He adds, however: "As governor of Massachusetts, Mr Romney was the first in our country to make health insurance mandatory in the state. That's not a very Republican thing to do."

He emphasises that his relationship with the Catholic Church in the US is solid, even though some Catholics were displeased when he endorsed Mr Obama for the presidency.

"I think I am a good and faithful servant of the Church. I worship daily, whenever I can. I am an imperfect human person but I know that I am saved by the grace of Jesus in the sacraments that he has left behind," he says.

Prof. Kmiec points out the US often appoints Catholics as ambassadors to Malta, saying it respects the Catholic tradition of Malta.

"It is a sign of respect by our President and Senate to seek out someone who would have an appreciation for the Catholic faith. In my case it was both my Catholic faith - which I teasingly tell the President he should be converted to - and the fact that I did spend most of the time during the campaign helping him address faith-based organisations and audiences."

He says Mr Obama believes many of the world's conflicts have been allowed to be worsened by a failure to understand each other's faith traditions and that his speech in Cairo a few months ago emphasised the importance of different faiths reaching out to each other.

"The President said to me he thought Malta was the ideal place for part of this discussion to go on. He said I won't have any trouble getting people to come to Malta, which is a particularly good place to have quiet diplomacy."

The ambassador laughs when he says the President is right about not having a problem getting people over to Malta.

"When I told people about my assignment they told me: 'We'll be visiting you'. Suddenly, my number of friends has grown considerably."

Prof. Kmiec therefore sees part of his assignment in Malta to bring people together and explore if bonds of trust can be formed among people of different faith traditions.

"If a hot spot erupts we might be able to call upon these faith-based organisations to help diffuse a situation."

He says his primary priority in Malta is to maintain the relations between the two countries, which he describes as "quite good and quite strong".

The ambassador says he has been pressing the Senate Foreign Relations Committee to ratify the double taxation agreement between the US and Malta and has been assured that this will be done this autumn. American firms, he says, will be able to take advantage of this agreement and use Malta as a gateway to the EU.

"We want to attract new economic opportunities here and we especially want to have responsible economic activity where there is concern for the environment. Energy security is an issue for both the US and Malta and it's something we can explore together. I have already had some discussions with US companies that produce wind turbines," he says.

Prof. Kmiec describes the work the Maltese armed forces do in the Mediterranean as "noble" and a "service to the world".

"Such a service not only keeps us safe from the illicit transportation of people or drugs or weapons - but is also a great humanitarian service, paying attention to people who would otherwise be ignored."

He adds: "Malta reaches out to these people fleeing their country, which shows not only a commitment to international law but it recognises what these people are really about."

He describe illegal migrants as people escaping from oppression and poverty and praised Malta, with its dense population and small area, for rescuing them at sea and bringing them in and, whenever possible, resettling them.

He says he was very proud of America's help in resettling some refugees who ended up in Malta and "I am definitely going to carry on supporting this policy". He says he will also look at new ways of strengthening the maritime training of Malta's armed forces by the US Coast Guard.

Some observers say President Obama's foreign policy has certainly changed the image and global perception of America for the better, but eight months into this presidency little has been achieved in certain hot spots such as the Middle East, Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan. When did he think we would see some real progress in these areas?

"I think we are actually seeing how difficult these problems are and how deep the conflicts run. It wouldn't be realistic of the President to say 'You've elected me and the world is now at peace'," Prof. Kmiec says.

He says that Mr Obama is about conducting a foreign policy that is principled and lives up to international standards.

"The President is humble enough to know there are aspects of foreign policy that may be better understood by others."

He reiterates that the US cannot accept a nuclear-armed Iran but is open to diplomacy, something refused by previous US administrations, and that the President has repeatedly stated that a two state solution is the only option for the Middle East.

Mr Obama, he says, is being equally honest with both sides in the Israeli-Palestinian dispute. "The Palestinians must make an effort to have terror attacks against Israel stopped and the Israelis must stop the expansion of settlements."

He emphasises that Mr Obama has called for increased troop levels in Afghanistan and admits that this has raised some concerns in the US.

"Are we being honest with ourselves and can we achieve our goal? This is being carefully examined in Washington and I think it's more than what we have had in the past. The President wants to make the best judgment but the debate on this situation is yet to be concluded."

Prof. Kmiec believes Mr Obama is "absolutely right" in trying to reform healthcare in America.

"Let's go back to my Catholic faith which says that life in every instance - unborn, born, up to the natural moment of death, should be respected."

He says when you have a system in which families are spending enormous sums on healthcare, yet the country is ranked 37th in healthcare delivery, one has to question the quality of healthcare that is being provided.

Furthermore, he says, millions of people have no access to healthcare at all, which not only places their life in jeopardy, but removes their value as good parents, and good co-workers.

He says he is reasonably confident that, notwithstanding the opposition from certain sectors of American society to this reform, an agreement will be reached by Christmas.

What does the ambassador think of some of the ferocious criticism Mr Obama has been subject to from right wing conservatives - an important pillar within the Republican Party? Is this just politics as usual?

"I always think debates are better when they focus on substance rather than personality. So to the extent that the American debate has degenerated into a form of name calling or shouting, it doesn't advance democracy. However, I believe the vast majority of Americans do conduct themselves quite well," he says.

He added: "At the moment, the Republican Party, which I was a part of when I worked for Mr Reagan, is a bit lost in the wilderness. They haven't been able to find a national leader or decide how to react to Mr Obama."

Prof. Kmiec says there's a certain frustration level that has sunk in the Republican Party.

"They are worried that they won't regain their footing. I have news for them. Politics in America always shifts its emphasis, and they will return from the wilderness."

Prof. Kmiec says Mr Obama's economic stimulus package prevented the collapse of the banking and securities industry and the huge amount of money pumped into the economy was justified. But, he adds, there will be downsides: "One of those downsides may be the inflationary effects of the spending."

He says that what should be learned from the financial crisis is that the rules of the economy cannot be suspended mid-air, and ultimately there will be a price to pay.

"The lesson I know America has learned is that the price is paid indiscriminately, not just by the bad actors but also by people who were playing exactly by the rules," he says, adding that Mr Obama recently called on Wall Street to support an ambitious overall of the financial system.

[Walkingfeather]

I know Doug, have had lunch with both he and his wife. Brilliant scholar, Humble man. But for the life of me I have no idea, what happened to him. The only thing I can sense is that he saw his shot at the supremes and he compromised himself. His reward for this? Malta. I feel so deeply sad for him. It goes to show you that there is a difference between intelligence and wisdom.

[giotto]

Suckers for words. That’s the only explanation for people like Kmiec. They love to hear themselves expound tirelessly, they love to hear con men like Obama expound tirelessly. Little things like Obama’s four votes to kill innocent abortion survivors can be explained away in a torrent of words. They wallow in them like drunks on a binge or fat ladies finishing off the last chocolate. Truth means nothing. As long as the soothing words keep massaging that pleasure center in the mind, that’s all that matters.

[DarthVader]

Doug was deceived by the spirit of anti-christ and is now considered to be a heretic or schismatic by many in the Church. I personally believe he should be publically rebuked by Rome and excommunicated if he does not submit to discipline. Doug cannot serve two masters without hating one of the other. God’s word teaches about people like him calling them “double-minded” and who are unstable in their ways.

[olezip]

Mr Obama asked Prof. Kmiec: "What would cause a mother to contemplate taking the life of a child? It has to be something awful. It has to be a woman without shelter, without insurance, without the next meal on the table."

Only one with a disordered mind would kill a baby.

When asked "What would we do with all those babies if we had no abortions?," Mother Theresa said "Give them to me."

Obama is a junior professor on training wheels running our country. Prof. Kmiec is a heretic telling us how to solve problems of the world; problems he, himself, avoided by becoming a professor, in my humble opinion.

[don-o]

Even though there were areas of disagreement, Mr Obama pointed out the responsibility of government to provide a family wage, to care for the environment and to provide healthcare for the uninsured.

Is it indeed the teaching of the church that the government bears responsibility for these things? I think I know the answer.

And the followup question would be: How does a supposedly intelligent Catholic get so far off the rails?

[grey_whiskers]

Because he’s a f***** idiot

DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING!

NO more calls, please.

We have a winner!

[elcid1970]

Malta may not be 99% Catholic much longer as, IIRC, the island nation is being gradually overrun by waves of Arab Muslims from nearby Libya.

[GraceCoolidge]

Mr Obama replied: "Well, professor, not everyone sees life beginning in the same way. The Methodists see it differently, the Jewish faith in part sees it differently." And he went through the list, Presbyterians and so forth.

What a ridiculous argument. Gee, not everybody saw slavery the same way, either. Or, more recently--not everyone sees health insurance reform the same way, either. Why doesn't Obama work to change "hearts and minds" on health insurance, rather than ramming through legislation? If it's good enough for the unborn, it's good enough for the uninsured, right?

[Ann Archy]

Little Dougie must like LIARS because Bammy is one of the BEST!

Hey, Dougie, watch the Glenn Beck show where he plays Bammy saying one thing, and then a clip of him saying just the OPPOSITE!! He is a LIAR!

[Ann Archy]

Abortion is the Human Sacrifce to the god of Convenience.

[Running On Empty]

Well-spoken—and in much fewer words :-) Thanks

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

You realize, of course, that this is a mental disorder.
There is an oppositional-defiant form of obsessive compulsive disorder in which
the person gets a charge out of saying and doing outrageous things which upset
and agitate people. This is a very bad case of that.

Usually it hits a formerly very scrupulous nun or priest who at some point can't stop
talking about sex in very graphic details. The dorks who come out as supportive
of pro-abortion politicians display similar hysteria. They get this smirk as they tell
pro-lifers they are supporting the abortionist. That's oppositional defiant disorder.
Not surprising for it to appear in a left-brained law professor, already with a lot
of control issues, rigid character armor, and elaborate routine of defense mechanisms.
Nor surprising that it is presented as an elaborate, complex, intellectual ethical and legal
theory with a lot of casuistry, hair splitting, quodlibets, and annotations, claimed to be
the result of an arduous and heroic personal intellectual achievement, accompanied by
smugness, nose raising, self-righteous projections, accusations, moralistic lecturing, and
assertions of moral and intellectual superiority combined with a self-pitying persecution
complex. Hubris. Repetitive and obsessive hand washing would not be surprising.

The disaster of Bush-Cheney really drew them out.
Along with Obama's deranged messianic posturing.

[Mrs. Don-o]

"Is it indeed the teaching of the church that the government bears responsibility for health care?"

Kmiec is obvisouly confused about Catholic Social Teaching, and especially about the hugely important distinction between "society" and "the state."

If we say that "society" must strive for the common good in relation to healtcare (or water quality, or cinema and broadcast entertainment, or neighborhood safety, or early childhood education, or anything else), we must emphasize that "society" consists of every form of human organization, beginning with the marital couple and the family, and extending through workplaces, businesses, nonprofits, labor organizations, trade associations, professional groups, parishes, schools, fraternal and civic associations, philanthopic and charitable groups, clubs, partnerships, city and county governments, etc. etc. etc. with special emphasis on that third etcetera.

All of these are not, collectively, "the state"; they are prior to and more important than "the state": they constitute "society." And "the state" cannot justly invade and absorb the functions of "society."

It is because "society" must strive for the common good in relation to healthcare, that spouses care for each other in sickness and in health; that parents care for dependent children; that adult children care for aged and dependent elders; that parishes hire parish nurses. It is because of "society's" duty to care for the sick, that Catholic religious orders the United States in the last 150 years founded and staffed the largest non-government hospital system in the world.

Part of "society's" role is exemplified by employers offering group insurance coverage; students deciding to enter the medical professions; inventors seeking patents for new therapeutic devices, and investors committing money to the development, production, and sale of these devices---as I said, "etc. etc."

I'm trying to suggest a crowded Bruegels canvas

showing hundreds and thousands of people individually and jointly doing their thing, resulting in people in their "common associations" achieving the "common good."

This multiplex, layered society, each unit having its own proper gifts, opportunities, and obligations, is the context for all the Church's teachings on Social Justice.

Somebody should tell Doug Kmiec.

I seem to have a vocation in Remedial Catechism.

[Poe White Trash]

>>> “I think I am a good and faithful servant of the Church. I worship daily, whenever I can. I am an imperfect human person but I know that I am saved by the grace of Jesus in the sacraments that he has left behind,” he says. <<<

Foolish words.

He says he can publicly trash natural and divine law concerning the murder of innocents and yet, at the end of the day, still be saved by the sacraments.

Will Obama save him?

[AFPhys]

I wonder how Dear Leader explained his voting several times to support infanticide while he was in IL?

“I didn’t ask.” he says?

This is someone who clearly believes that talk is worth more than action. The perfect mark for a shyster.

[Carlos Martillo II]

That would probably make them even more pro-life; an even worse fit.

[elcid1970]

I’m not so sure.

Muzzie terrrorists say it’s OK to murder Jewish women and children because each child is a future Israeli soldier and therefore a righteous target.

What if the rest of us “cursed infidels” felt the same way about muzzie offspring?

[Carlos Martillo II]

They believe that is exactly how we feel; the Palestine question involves more than just “soldiers”.

[presidio9]

(Yes, I know it’s lame, but...) Popes no longer excommunicate Catholics for the sins the may have committed. Even Popes can not presume to know what truely lies in a man’s heart. Politicians and other individuals who commit unpardonable crimes like performing abortions and advancing the cause of abortion are said to excommunicate themselves “latae sententiae.” Sure, it’s less fufilling for the rest of us, but excommunication was always about the relationship between one individual and God anyway.