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To: E. Pluribus Unum

In Mexico, someone who shows too much ambition is accused of “wanting to be an American” - a surprisingly effective insult. Hence their per capita GDP is half of ours.


3 posted on 09/21/2009 8:51:55 AM PDT by eclecticEel (The Most High rules in the kingdom of men ... and sets over it the basest of men.)
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To: eclecticEel
In Mexico, someone who shows too much ambition is accused of “wanting to be an American” - a surprisingly effective insult.

So the ambitious souls head for the border -- legally or not.

10 posted on 09/21/2009 8:56:44 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Love me, love my cat.)
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Ambition has historically been looked down on in Catholic cultures as an exhibition of “pride.” In my conversations with Mexicans, both here and in Mexico, I never really encountered the “wanting to be American” comment (although I am sure it exists), but instead came across the attitude that it was bad to think that you were “better” than your family and friends by pulling yourself up and beyond your station. This attitude was common in southern Europe (to say nothing of Poland) until quite recently, and has (thankfully) been dying in Brazil as well.


11 posted on 09/21/2009 8:57:01 AM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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Is that for all Mexicans or just the Mezitos and Indians?


12 posted on 09/21/2009 8:57:30 AM PDT by John Will
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I would respsect this research more if he had administered IQ tests to everyone involved. As it stands we are left without vital information: are the black kids as ABLE to excel as the white kids. Without that we are left with a typically stunted analysis that comes down 100% on the "nurture" side of the debate. I suspectd "nature" has at least some part in this.

The "acting white" cultural norm is in part a defense. Which is more hummiliating: to work your ass off in a suburban school to get C's, or to claim trying to succeed is "acting white", cop an attitude and get D's.

Of course we can't talk about this. "That's racist!".

35 posted on 09/21/2009 9:35:25 AM PDT by Jack Black
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The ones with any ambition are already here.


44 posted on 09/21/2009 9:58:07 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The Second Amendment. Don't MAKE me use it.)
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To: eclecticEel
In Mexico, someone who shows too much ambition is accused of “wanting to be an American” - a surprisingly effective insult. Hence their per capita GDP is half of ours.

If they change the wording to "wanting to be Chinese," then we should start worrying...

48 posted on 09/21/2009 10:20:19 AM PDT by sourcery (Party like it's 1776!)
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