Posted on 09/18/2009 1:13:45 PM PDT by EveningStar
Irving Kristol, 89, a forceful essayist, editor and university professor who became the leading architect of neoconservatism, which he called a political and intellectual movement for disaffected ex-liberals like himself who had been "mugged by reality," died Friday at the Capital Hospice in Arlington.
He spent much of his career in New York but had for the last two decades lived at the Watergate apartments in the District. He died of complications from lung cancer, said his son, William Kristol, the founder and editor of the conservative Weekly Standard magazine.
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Neoconservatism is a blight upon America. It is responsible for the shape we are in today.
Why all the bitterness on this thread?
Spoken like a true Left Wing loon, newbee
We have a bunch of them on this thread. :(
I am no fan of neocons, but if that’s as far as an ex-liberal can come, I’ll take him.
Think of the term "neocon" as a vessel into which True Conservatives pour all of their frustrations, imagined or not.
As an experiment, try to get them to define it--you'll get a hundred different answers.
No, spoken like a true conservative...a real, “old right” conservative.
It's just the anti-neocon loons coming up for air.
And usually it will all lead back to one thing......'The Joooooooos.'
You mean an isolationist?
For my clarification, neocon = RINO?
It’s good that you made that Kristol Klear. :)
Sounds like his version of the left's race card: saying something automatically makes you racist/anti-semite.
A neoconservative was originally a term used for pro-war liberals, like Joe Lieberman or Rudy Giuliani, who wanted wars for democracy and nation-building. The term has since evolved to basically mean anyone who supports pre-emptive wars.
Don't ask me to define it. Can't do it.
The ones that favor bigger government and higher taxes?
“No, spoken like a true conservative...a real, old right conservative.
You mean an isolationist?”
Though the term is generally meant as an insult...yes. But it’s much more than that.
That, or maybe Mark Levin still reads Pat Buchanan's work.
That’s not true. The late IK said
“QUOTE: ‘Ever since I can remember, I’ve been a neo-something: a neo-Marxist, a neo-Trotskyist, a neo-liberal, a neo-conservative; in religion a neo-orthodox even while I was a neo-Trotskyist and a neo-Marxist. I’m going to end up a neo-that’s all, neo dash nothing.’”
And Ron Paul is very explicit and precise in his prescient 2003 critique of neoconservatism:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2970178683925412799&hl=en&emb=1#
“No, spoken like a true conservative...a real, old right conservative.
The ones that favor bigger government and higher taxes?”
No, the ones who favor an almost non-existent government (compared to the behemoth we have today), and lower taxes...preferably no direct taxes at all.
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