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Irving Kristol, Architect of Neoconservatism, Dies at 89
The Washington Post ^ | September 18, 2009 | Adam Bernstein

Posted on 09/18/2009 1:13:45 PM PDT by EveningStar

Irving Kristol, 89, a forceful essayist, editor and university professor who became the leading architect of neoconservatism, which he called a political and intellectual movement for disaffected ex-liberals like himself who had been "mugged by reality," died Friday at the Capital Hospice in Arlington.

He spent much of his career in New York but had for the last two decades lived at the Watergate apartments in the District. He died of complications from lung cancer, said his son, William Kristol, the founder and editor of the conservative Weekly Standard magazine.

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To: Bryanw92

Neoconservatism is a blight upon America. It is responsible for the shape we are in today.


21 posted on 09/18/2009 1:56:11 PM PDT by SandWMan ( A riot ist an ugly sing, und, I sink it's about time zat ve had vone!)
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To: ari-freedom
Yes, his supply-side ideas were extremely important.

Why all the bitterness on this thread?

22 posted on 09/18/2009 1:58:12 PM PDT by what's up
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To: SandWMan

Spoken like a true Left Wing loon, newbee


23 posted on 09/18/2009 1:59:38 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: SoCalPol

We have a bunch of them on this thread. :(


24 posted on 09/18/2009 2:01:40 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

I am no fan of neocons, but if that’s as far as an ex-liberal can come, I’ll take him.


25 posted on 09/18/2009 2:01:51 PM PDT by Lazamataz (DEFINITION: rac-ist (rA'sis't) 1. Anyone who disagrees with a liberal about any topic.)
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To: what's up
Why all the bitterness on this thread?

Think of the term "neocon" as a vessel into which True Conservatives™ pour all of their frustrations, imagined or not.

As an experiment, try to get them to define it--you'll get a hundred different answers.

26 posted on 09/18/2009 2:01:54 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: SoCalPol

No, spoken like a true conservative...a real, “old right” conservative.


27 posted on 09/18/2009 2:02:42 PM PDT by SandWMan ( A riot ist an ugly sing, und, I sink it's about time zat ve had vone!)
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To: what's up
Why all the bitterness on this thread?

It's just the anti-neocon loons coming up for air.

28 posted on 09/18/2009 2:03:11 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: 1rudeboy
As an experiment, try to get them to define it--you'll get a hundred different answers.

And usually it will all lead back to one thing......'The Joooooooos.'

29 posted on 09/18/2009 2:03:43 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SandWMan; SoCalPol
No, spoken like a true conservative...a real, “old right” conservative.

You mean an isolationist?

30 posted on 09/18/2009 2:05:03 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

For my clarification, neocon = RINO?


31 posted on 09/18/2009 2:05:04 PM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Tucker39
It's Bill Kristol and actor Billy Crystal
32 posted on 09/18/2009 2:06:00 PM PDT by mwl8787
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To: mwl8787

It’s good that you made that Kristol Klear. :)


33 posted on 09/18/2009 2:07:03 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: DogBarkTree
As Mark Levin says “when libs say Neocon they really mean The Jews”

Sounds like his version of the left's race card: saying something automatically makes you racist/anti-semite.

A neoconservative was originally a term used for pro-war liberals, like Joe Lieberman or Rudy Giuliani, who wanted wars for democracy and nation-building. The term has since evolved to basically mean anyone who supports pre-emptive wars.

34 posted on 09/18/2009 2:07:27 PM PDT by GoldStandard
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To: 1rudeboy
As an experiment, try to get them to define it--you'll get a hundred different answers.

Don't ask me to define it. Can't do it.

35 posted on 09/18/2009 2:09:05 PM PDT by paulycy (Screw the RACErs.)
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To: SandWMan
No, spoken like a true conservative...a real, “old right” conservative.

The ones that favor bigger government and higher taxes?

36 posted on 09/18/2009 2:09:15 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: EveningStar

“No, spoken like a true conservative...a real, “old right” conservative.

You mean an isolationist?”

Though the term is generally meant as an insult...yes. But it’s much more than that.


37 posted on 09/18/2009 2:10:34 PM PDT by SandWMan ( A riot ist an ugly sing, und, I sink it's about time zat ve had vone!)
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To: GoldStandard
Sounds like his version of the left's race card: saying something automatically makes you racist/anti-semite.

That, or maybe Mark Levin still reads Pat Buchanan's work.

38 posted on 09/18/2009 2:10:42 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

That’s not true. The late IK said

“QUOTE: ‘Ever since I can remember, I’ve been a neo-something: a neo-Marxist, a neo-Trotskyist, a neo-liberal, a neo-conservative; in religion a neo-orthodox even while I was a neo-Trotskyist and a neo-Marxist. I’m going to end up a neo-that’s all, neo dash nothing.’”

And Ron Paul is very explicit and precise in his prescient 2003 critique of neoconservatism:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2970178683925412799&hl=en&emb=1#


39 posted on 09/18/2009 2:12:03 PM PDT by Palin Republic (Palin - Bachmann 2012 : Girl Power!)
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To: 1rudeboy

“No, spoken like a true conservative...a real, “old right” conservative.

The ones that favor bigger government and higher taxes?”

No, the ones who favor an almost non-existent government (compared to the behemoth we have today), and lower taxes...preferably no direct taxes at all.


40 posted on 09/18/2009 2:12:40 PM PDT by SandWMan ( A riot ist an ugly sing, und, I sink it's about time zat ve had vone!)
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