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Democrats to Obama: Um, what exactly are we getting for selling out Poland to Russia?
hotair.com ^ | September 17, 2009 | September 17, 2009

Posted on 09/18/2009 5:44:31 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

What are you getting? You’re getting the same thing you got when he sold out Honduras to Chavez over that non-coup “coup” they staged: The warm fuzzy glow of knowing that George Bush would heartily disapprove.

But some members of Obama’s own party, however, had a simple question for the administration: if this was a return to realism, and a concession to Russia’s long and vocal opposition to the missile program, what, exactly, was the U.S. getting in return for fundamentally changing it?

And almost certainly, the answer leads back to Iran… But Russia has given no ground on those questions, with Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov bluntly opposing tougher sanctions. And Medvedev suggested Thursday that any new American political capital would be more likely go toward the longer-term Obama Administration goal of deep cuts to the two countries’ nuclear weapons stocks… “If they wanted to engage in a process of negotiation over this they should have been transparent with the Polish and the Czech governments,” said Randy Scheunemann, the top foreign policy advisor to the presidential campaign of Senator John McCain, who said cancelling the missiles in the countries was “seriously misguided.”

“Unilateral preemptive concession in the hope that your negotiating partners will follow suit? Anyone who believes that will work with Russia hasn’t looked at 70 years of Soviet history and 200 years of Russian history,” Scheunemann said.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: amateur; bho44; democrats; fubo; ge; impeach; iran; morganstanley; obama; obamatruthfile; obamatruthfiles; russia
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

wow, that article left me speechless.


41 posted on 09/18/2009 6:30:10 AM PDT by RatsDawg (At least we don't have to worry about riding in Ted Kennedy's car anymore...)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
Oh, and this one too from Fox News reminding us that Iran somehow managed to launch a satellite into space earlier this year, which suggests the sort of near-term long-range missile capability that our crack intel team now insists doesn’t require defending against."

Crack being the operative word there.

42 posted on 09/18/2009 6:30:29 AM PDT by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Almost 50 years to free Eastern Europe through the Cold War, and 4 years to give it back?

hh


43 posted on 09/18/2009 6:31:56 AM PDT by hoosier hick (Note to RINOs: We need a choice, not an echo....Barry Goldwater)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
Democrats to Obama: Um, what exactly are we getting for selling out Poland to Russia?

It's clear that democrats are racist and can't accept that a black man is president.

I've seen this kind of behavior before and frankly it scares me. *tear*

44 posted on 09/18/2009 6:32:08 AM PDT by McGruff (Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency - Obama)
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To: shaft29

Number 1 in your post is one of the scenarios Savage laid out yesterday. He went into the history of Persia and Russia and how it’s been rocky over the centuries. If this is the reasoning I can’t say I disagree and it may be the best international move made by this administration. I cannot see how a nuclear Iran would be in the interest of Russia.


45 posted on 09/18/2009 6:32:41 AM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: NativeNewYorker
Yes, both.

He got scared when Russiaa played war games with China off our coast and threatened a nuke build up in Cuba and asked for ONE MILLION DOLLARS

<-------INSERT Putin's picture here

PLUS: 0bama got atleast two sweet business deals with his crony campaign donators.

46 posted on 09/18/2009 6:35:05 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: La Lydia
I am glad someone has remembered and documented what this is all about.
The only remaining question is, did we sell Poland and the Czech Republic down the river from inexperience and naivety, or for even more sinister reasons?

Mostly the last one (aiding the Russians in their goal of bringing back the Soviet Union).

47 posted on 09/18/2009 6:35:09 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
What are WE getting? That's not the question. "We" aren't getting anything. What's Obama getting is the question.
48 posted on 09/18/2009 6:36:53 AM PDT by GOPJ (ACORN -- -- Your UNITED WAY DOLLARS AT WORK)
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To: numberonepal

Not sure I know who Savage is. Please enlighten me.


49 posted on 09/18/2009 6:46:22 AM PDT by shaft29 (Just your typical black woman.)
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To: hoosier hick

less than 4 years.


50 posted on 09/18/2009 6:49:26 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

The package deal. Not only does Russia get us not building a missile defense system, they get Ukraine and Georgia in the deal. And China gets goodies from us too, such as a defense trade cutoff with Taiwan. And they BOTH get us falling back to an idiotic launch on impact policy with our nuclear arsenal.


51 posted on 09/18/2009 6:54:50 AM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: numberonepal
it may be the best international move made by this administration.

No wonder we are so screwed up as a country now. Even folks on our side don't have a clue what's going on.

Russia seeks a return of the Soviet Union and is allied closely with the ChiComs, Chavez, the Castro bros and others of the same ilk. Obama, as a loyal member of the U.S. communist left, is out to do whatever he can get away with to help them in this mission. In this case, help set the stage for an eventually Russian invasion of Poland and the Chec R. Look at what happened, and is going on right now, in Georgia.

52 posted on 09/18/2009 6:58:36 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL
commie crazy like a fox.
53 posted on 09/18/2009 7:01:18 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: STONEWALLS

” .by selling out he saves money to use for more “programs” to buy votes with in the cities.”

Bingo. You win the prize


54 posted on 09/18/2009 7:02:31 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

It’s an interesting thing. People keep asking if Obama does what he does because he is dumb and naive or actually out to destroy the U.S. But to be a member of the commie left (who wants America to fall), one HAS TO be dumb and naive. So the answer IS “both”.


55 posted on 09/18/2009 7:10:05 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: patriotspride
RE: ”by selling out he saves money to use for more “programs” to buy votes within the cities.”

Bingo. You win the prize

The opposite is true. The commie left likes to spend tons of money on government programs because it takes money away from the military. One of their main aims is to cripple us militarily. They don't really believe in all those ridiculous social programs they advocate. It's a "spend money on anything but the military so to weaken us internationally" agenda.

56 posted on 09/18/2009 7:20:58 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: maggief
Ask GE.

I missed The Factor yesterday...has Bill O. opined?
57 posted on 09/18/2009 7:29:08 AM PDT by Miss Didi ( "After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Two words ... “campaign contributions.”


58 posted on 09/18/2009 7:42:07 AM PDT by The Duke ("Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Democrat Party?")
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To: shaft29

Mike Savage - conservative talk show host.


59 posted on 09/18/2009 7:47:08 AM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: ETL

I also strongly agree with you on your analysis. I get it.


60 posted on 09/18/2009 7:49:37 AM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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