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My advise to the Farmers in the San Joaquin Valley - TURN YOUR WATER ON!
JEFFHEAD.COM ^ | September 17, 2009 | Jeff Head

Posted on 09/17/2009 8:26:34 PM PDT by Jeff Head

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To: AuntB

Have you seen this?


201 posted on 09/18/2009 9:27:17 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Jeff Head

Turn the water on!!


202 posted on 09/18/2009 9:29:57 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Jeff Head

One solution would be to eliminate all the fish. If the fish are gone, there is no need to save the water to save the fish.


203 posted on 09/18/2009 9:33:52 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Quotes of the century: 2001 "Lets Roll"..... 2009 "You Lie")
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To: melancholy

Same thing I was thinking, but on a larger scale since the intakes are so huge. Screens close to the intake would probably restrict flow too much, so you need a containment area for “de-minnowed” water. Something like a large reservoir/basin that keeps the minnow or any other wildlife from getting anywhere near the intakes constructed around the intakes to provide enough volume for them while protecting the precious little minnow.


204 posted on 09/18/2009 9:35:45 AM PDT by jurroppi1 (The American people deserve more than hype and claims from all parts of gov't (think founders)!)
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To: blackie

Yep! LET THE WATER FLOW!


205 posted on 09/18/2009 9:36:16 AM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: Jeff Head
I watched the special last night. This injustice is an outrage.

People can call me paranoid if they like, but I think this is just another part of the deliberate attempt to destroy America as an independent nation.

206 posted on 09/18/2009 9:37:47 AM PDT by jpl
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To: Grampa Dave; Jeff Head
Where is La Raza? Have they done anything to protect the huge Hispanic numbers of unemployed due to this green terrorist crime against humans?

Even the illegal aliens should have their irrigation water turned back on. I respect and like all farmers and anyone who grows food. Even the illegals. I would still deport them but while they are here they should have water in the fields they work in.

Massive unemployment in the San Joaquin
Many of the land owners are Hispanic and most of the workers are

207 posted on 09/18/2009 9:41:18 AM PDT by dennisw (Free Republic is an island in a sea of zombies)
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To: AuntB

I watched Hannity last night and that part of the Valley really looks dry!


208 posted on 09/18/2009 9:48:07 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Jeff Head
There are similarities here to the Railroad wars during the (California Govenor) Johnson administration.

The Southern Pacific Railroad attempted to enslave the valley farmers by completely controlling the shipment of farm produce and setting freight rates at 100% of the farmers profit.

When the farmers refused and hired teamsters to transport their produce by wagon, the railroad hired Pinkertons to prevent the farmers from using the public roads at the railroad grade crossings, as the track right of way was private property.

The several county sheriff's affected started picking sides, some accepting railroad bribes and protecting the Pinkertons, and some not interfering with the resultant armed groups of farmers/teamsters.

There were several killings on both sides, but the overall result was the steady erosion of California railroad power to an effective neutered state in 1911 with the installation of the initiative referendum, and recall. The Pinkerton agency was permanently discredited as hired thugs, and the 1956 interstate highway system destroyed the railroad influence nationally in finality. These results are not coincidental.

Point is the farmers must be willing to see it through to the finish. One thing for sure is the new Pinkertons, the public employees, already have the reputation and credibility of the original Pinkertons.

209 posted on 09/18/2009 9:49:22 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: dennisw

As you noted many of the land owners in the new dust bowl are Hispanics. They are legal or born in the USA, and they are being economically $crewed by the green economic terrorists.


210 posted on 09/18/2009 9:53:22 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Does 0b0z0 have any friends, who aren't traitors, spies, tax cheats and criminals?)
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To: blackie; AuntB

Howdy there! So good to ‘see’ you again.

I drove up the valley a few weeks ago. It is the worst I have ever seen it in all my years traveling this route. Truly sad what has happened to a place that was once vibrant with vegatation and life. I loved traveling this route during harvest watching the activity and GOOD OLD AMERICAN COMMERCE...no this trip.


211 posted on 09/18/2009 9:55:29 AM PDT by amom (Proud mom of an Army tanker. Remembering Tonk)
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To: Jeff Head
You should seriously consider a seperate page/thread for this amom...

Working on it now. I'll ping you when I've posted it. Most likely this evening or tomorrow.

212 posted on 09/18/2009 10:06:32 AM PDT by amom (Proud mom of an Army tanker. Remembering Tonk)
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To: Eva; Jeff Head

I was in beautiful c. WA in June, and saw the signs opposing taking down the dams. Wonderful, wonderful farm country, and I pray it can be maintained that way.


213 posted on 09/18/2009 10:22:49 AM PDT by Molly Pitcher (We are Americans...the sons and daughters of liberty...*.from FReeper the Real fifi*))
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To: jurroppi1
Same thing I was thinking, but on a larger scale since the intakes are so huge.

Depending on the volumetric flow rate(s), there is a calculated basin-like dimension for a hold-up volume.

To dig and lay a concrete basin is much more involved, time consuming and expensive. However, with the stainless screen I mentioned in my post, the water velocity will be low enough not to cause a high delta P, affecting the water flow rate, hence; any vibrations affecting the screen or causing pump(s) cavitation and damaging the impeller(s).

The existing pumps must have existing screens (filter cages) around the intakes. They should be left alone and one large fence, if you will, erected per the description in my previous post.

The cost of such a construction is next to zero compared to the cost of the pumping station.

As an aside, the zero needs to be caged, but that's for a different reason altogether.

214 posted on 09/18/2009 10:40:02 AM PDT by melancholy (Hey Marxists, don't Crap & Tread on me. Zer0's defeat is now in progress.)
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To: jpl
I think this is just another part of the deliberate attempt to destroy America as an independent nation.

And/or creating a desert for a solr-panel farm to fit the CommuFascist agend, which by extesion, will ruin our beloved country.

215 posted on 09/18/2009 10:46:33 AM PDT by melancholy (Hey Marxists, don't Crap & Tread on me. Zer0's defeat is now in progress.)
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To: melancholy

solr-——>solar


216 posted on 09/18/2009 10:47:14 AM PDT by melancholy (Hey Marxists, don't Crap & Tread on me. Zer0's defeat is now in progress.)
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To: amom
GREAT! Looking forward to it and will ping my entire list to the same.
217 posted on 09/18/2009 10:51:23 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Navy Patriot
Tyranny is tyranny...whether by a bunch of goons from the Railroad, or from the government.

Using the color of law to make it happen, IMHO, it is the duty of every faithful American to stand four-square against it from whatever source, just as our forefathers did.

Obama surely does not want the spectre of the federal government ridong rough shod and ultimately fighting farmers for the farmer's water over a minnow. He's already suffering in the polls...and this is going to make him suffer much more. Couldn't happen to a more deserving guy.

218 posted on 09/18/2009 10:54:42 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: jpl

The environmental whackos and their supporters in the judicial, executive, and legislative branches are the useful idiots of those wanting to destrroy this nation. No doubt about it, particularly when you research the foundations, funding, grants, etc., etc.


219 posted on 09/18/2009 10:56:24 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Grampa Dave
they are being economically $crewed by the green economic terrorists.

The enviro whackos are going to get it from both sides. It's no longer a liberal agenda appreciated by the mostly liberal farming population in the area.

The RATs coalition of fringe groups is doing them in, separately and collectively. (A nice liberal word)

220 posted on 09/18/2009 10:56:29 AM PDT by melancholy (Hey Marxists, don't Crap & Tread on me. Zer0's defeat is now in progress.)
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