http://finance.senate.gov/sitepages/leg/LEG%202009/091609%20Americas_Healthy_Future_Act.pdf
No tort refrom in his proposal?? Is that correct?
NO Republican support! Good....
Sen. Baucus What part of NO do you not understand?
The majority of the American people don’t want Gov. run
health care, period !
Oh, just $856 billion ? Plus the $750 billion bail out that
the American people never wanted and the untold trillions
that all this is going to cost with the “Cap and Trade bill”.
while you and your colleagues at the same time
live in your mansions and enjoy the finest health care that
can be offered at no cost to you. We, the peasants do not like the way the kingdom is being run!
The hole they are digging may be just too deep to dig out of.
No nation on earth has ever run up a $2,000,000,000,000.00 debt in one year.
The 60s group Tens Year After had this lyric in their song “I'd Love to Change the World”:
“Tax the rich, feed the poor, till there are no rich no more.”
This will be the end result of Obama’s policies, which he thinks is "fair".
I assume this latest version of the crap sandwich doesn’t include a provision that requires all government employees, current and retired, including members of Congress,the executive and judicial branches to be required to immediately take the “public option”, i.e. move immediately from first class to steerage.
Props to the 3 GOPers who didn’t sign on to this.
He’s spinning this bill as something that will help the average working American, but this bill won’t help the average person. His speech is a load of BS. This bill uses a collectivist approach that forces all young people and healthy responsible people into a system where they’ll have to pay for relatively expensive health insurance, to subsidize the poor, illegal immigrants, and people with pre-existing conditions. It’s galloping socialism...European style. Welcome to Sweden...and get ready for much higher taxes and inflation to pay for all of this, if it passes in congress.
NO public option
NO co-opts
NO trigger legislation
PERIOD!!
My child in public school now pays $6.18 per day for a lunch that costs $1.98 to prepare. Why? Because a full 50% of kids get a free lunch. The rest goes to pay for the government to run it.
Here is the track record of the cost of the program in representative years:
1950 - $119M
1960 - $225M
1970 - $565M
1980 - $3.2 Billion
1990 - $3.7 Billion
2000 - $6.1 Billion
2008 - $9.3 Billion
Over 30 million kids get their lunch for free, and my kid pays $6.18 for a lunch that costs $1.98
Just factor all these numbers up and you will have the economics behind Obamacare.
Even forgetting the all other awful measures in the bill, if this is implemented it will kill insurance. Hey, let's lobby congress for the same on auto insurance!
This measure is also their justification for fining those who don't want insurance and getting the IRS et al to give bureaucrats every bit of information they have on you. Still, even with the fine, it may still be worth forgoing insurance until something bad hit and then getting a plan that year (with the bonus that it also gets you out of a 'fine' for that year). I still see insurance companies getting creamed, leaving everyone with one option...
The plan...
2009 - Set up a government plan, without a government option...
2011 - quietly modify the plan to include a very small government option in rare instances
2013 - quietly modify the plan to expand the government option
2015 - quietly modify the plan to balloon the government option out significantly
2017 - quietly modify the plan so that private insurance becomes impossible to obtain/retain if you have to change jobs or insurance coverage
2020 - Single payer is achieved...
Remember ‘War Games’, the movie? The only way to win, is not to play the game.
Republicans who cooperate to contribute to a sound fix of health care are only insuring that they can never win.
KEEP THE GOVERNMENT’S HANDS OFF HEALTH CARE PERIOD!
Live Free Or Die
And taxpayers will pay for abortions.
There lies the catcher. How is our idiots in Government going to prove where a baby is born and even if they are born here, the incentive increases for illegals to come here just to have babies and get their babies free healthcare.
And WHOHOO! an excise tax:
Excise Tax. The consequence for not maintaining insurance would be an excise tax. If a taxpayer‘s MAGI is between 100-300 percent of FPL, the excise tax for failing to obtain coverage for an individual in a taxpayer unit (either as a taxpayer or an individual claimed as a dependent) is $750 per year. However, the maximum penalty for the taxpayer unit is $1,500. If a taxpayer‘s MAGI is above 300 percent of FPL the penalty for failing to obtain coverage for an individual in a taxpayer unit (either as a taxpayer or as an individual claimed as a dependent) is $950 year. However, the maximum penalty amount a family above 300 percent of FPL would pay is $3,800.
Only $3800? What a bargain! Thank you, thank you, government!
P.S. What's a "taxpayer unit"? It sounds sort of ...um...Soylent Green...or something.
Same “gift to the American people”, just different wrapping paper.
From what I have heard about Baucus’ legislation, my wife and I will suffer greatly from this 35% punishment tax that is in this bill. Obama lies about not taxing those making less than 250,000 a year. My wife and I make combined in the area of 114k a year. This is well below the 250K Obama promised not to tax. Yet, because of the health care benefits we receive, we will face a 35% tax that will either cost us an extra $6,000 a year, or force us into the “Public Option” (meaning we will not receive much in the way of health care). I will be making phone calls to my congressman and my U.S. senators (unfortunately that means Diane Fiendstein and Barbara (B!tch) Boxer). My congressman is a conservative republican fortunately.
Baucuscare Barf Alert.