Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

I posted a link to his plan below. Here it is again.

http://finance.senate.gov/sitepages/leg/LEG%202009/091609%20Americas_Healthy_Future_Act.pdf

1 posted on 09/16/2009 7:22:57 AM PDT by La Lydia
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-40 next last
To: La Lydia

[...those at the lower end of the income ladder would receive federal tax subsidies to defray the cost.]
Lying dog liberals still trying to push the public government run option to get their filthy foot in the door.


2 posted on 09/16/2009 7:26:10 AM PDT by kindred (Facts are a stubborn thing, but people are even more stubborn and will deny facts.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: La Lydia

And Acorn would just the right group to run those nonprofit cooperatives!

I hear they have some extra staff available from the census and housing groups that could run the cooperatives. It is a perfect fit!


4 posted on 09/16/2009 7:35:19 AM PDT by dan on the right
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: La Lydia

Healthy Future act = Health care reform = Fed takeover of health care.

Public Option = Co-opts = Fed takeover of health care.

Performing artist = Prostitute = Bipartisan human trafficking organizer.

See how it works?


5 posted on 09/16/2009 7:45:36 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: La Lydia

This needs to be beaten down.


8 posted on 09/16/2009 7:54:02 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: La Lydia
Let me guess. Paid for mostly by taking all the waste, corruption and fraud out of Medicare...well how did the waste, corruption and fraud get in Medicare in the first place?

And they want me to beleive there won't be any fraud, waste or corruption in this POS? I wasn't born yesterday, and unlike dims, I don't think history started yesterday either.

Any government program is riddled with fraud, waste and corruption less than 24 hours after it goes into effect. Bar none.

9 posted on 09/16/2009 7:54:29 AM PDT by libs_kma (F.U.B.O.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: La Lydia

“...unveiled a 10-year $856 billion bill ...”

Holy crap. These people are delusional. HOW THE HELL IS THIS REFORM??????


12 posted on 09/16/2009 8:00:13 AM PDT by scottdeus12 (Jesus is real, whether you believe in Him or not.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: La Lydia

Compare this monster of a bill to the one submitted in May of this year:

Senators Coburn, Burr and Representatives Ryan, Nunes Offer A Better Path Forward on Health Care Reform
Bicameral Coalition of Reformers Unveil “The Patients’ Choice Act of 2009”

WASHINGTON – Earlier today, U.S. Senators Tom Coburn, M.D. (R-OK) and Richard Burr (R-NC) and U.S. Representatives Paul Ryan (R-WI) and Devin Nunes (R-CA) introduced health care reform legislation that delivers on the shared principles of promoting universal access to quality, affordable health care, and does so without adding billions of dollars in new debt or taxes.

“The Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” transforms health care in America by strengthening the relationship between the patient and the doctor; using choice and competition rather than rationing and restrictions to contain costs; and ensuring universal, affordable health care for all Americans. “The Patients’ Choice Act” promotes innovative, State-based solutions, along with fundamental reforms in the tax code, to give every American, regardless of employment status, age, or health condition, the ability and the resources to purchase health insurance. The comprehensive legislation includes concrete prevention and transparency initiatives, long overdue reforms to Medicare and Medicaid, investments in wellness programs and health IT, and more.

Click below to read the details about the bill that the Democrats have kept from being heard. Why? Because it is not Government takeover of healthcare and certainly not a socialist bill.

http://coburn.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=HealthCareReform.Home


13 posted on 09/16/2009 8:00:37 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: La Lydia
***Medicaid would be expanded, and caps would be placed on patients’ yearly health care costs. The plan would be paid for with $507 billion in cuts to government health programs and $349 billion in new taxes and fees, including a tax on high-end insurance plans and fees on insurance companies and medical device manufacturers.***

Let me get this right. They cut $507 billion, expand Medicare/Medicaid roles but don't cut services for the elderly? Give me a break!

14 posted on 09/16/2009 8:01:01 AM PDT by tobyhill (The Communist has arrived)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: La Lydia
But no Republicans, not even the RINOs bought it. That says all you need to know about the bill.

The democrats have total control of the House and Senate and are having trouble getting their representatives to support this monstrosity (which also says a lot), much less trying to pass the responsibilty for it off to a few defecting RINOs.

God grant that we can return honest, patriotic statesmen and women to office soon...like in 2010.


AMERICA AT THE CROSSROADS OF HISTORY

INDEPENDENT AMERICAN MOVEMENT FOR CONSTITUTIONAL RESTORATION

16 posted on 09/16/2009 8:02:41 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: La Lydia
People insured through large employers would not see major changes, but some of their health care benefits would be nicked to help pay for the cost of the plan.

LOL.. Nicked is the news word for Taxed?
17 posted on 09/16/2009 8:05:11 AM PDT by nhwingut (The media's love affair with Obama reminds me of a dog humping a telephone pole.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: La Lydia

Not even Olympia Snowe will support this monstrosity. Now, the left is defecting too - Jay Rockefeller says he won’t support it. It doesn’t seem Baucus has made any progress at all and this bill is just as bad and divisive as HR 3200 and the Senate HELP bill.


19 posted on 09/16/2009 8:08:11 AM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: La Lydia

DU was cussing up a storm over Baucus over his ties to the medical and pharmaceutical industries.


21 posted on 09/16/2009 8:10:01 AM PDT by listenhillary (A "cult of personality" arises when a leader uses mass media creating idealized/heroic public image)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: La Lydia

Still no tort reform.


25 posted on 09/16/2009 8:15:15 AM PDT by BJClinton (Any "healthcare reform" without tort reform is a fraud.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: La Lydia

Jimmy Carter suspects racism is what is driving this.


26 posted on 09/16/2009 8:15:55 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Put butter on your tag line.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: La Lydia

FNC reported that NO POLITICIAN WOULD STAND with Bacus at the press conference.

He was all alone.


30 posted on 09/16/2009 8:21:12 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: La Lydia
http://finance.senate.gov/sitepages/leg/LEG%202009/091609%20Americas_Healthy_Future_Act.pdf
32 posted on 09/16/2009 8:21:46 AM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (Impeach the Traitor and his Minions !)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: La Lydia
The bill seems to prohibit Federal Funding of abortion except in cases of rape, incest, and danger of death to the mother - still unacceptable.

Also includes this nugget:

"The Secretary would ensure that in each state exchange, at least one plan provides coverage of abortions beyond those for which Federal funds appropriated for the Department of Health and Human Services are permitted.

In other words, the fed gov't is going to require every state - regardless of its laws - to provide insurance that covers abortion-on-demand.

FAIL.

The Secretary would also ensure that in each state exchange, at least one plan does not provide coverage of abortions beyond those for which Federal funds appropriated for the Department of Health and Human Services are permitted."

The gov't will require an option that limits coverage to the above-mentioned conditions (which are non-starters anyway).

So, anyway you cut it, this bill, by requiring states to offer abortion-on-demand insurance, is indirectly mandating abortion coverage with your taxes. States can still prohibit abortion if they so choose, but since all 50 states allow it, it's guaranteed that your taxes will finance an innocent child's death.

35 posted on 09/16/2009 8:26:02 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: La Lydia

“Moreover, insurers would be barred from using a range of practices — such as denying health coverage to individuals with pre-existing conditions”

This is the clause that will change health care as we know it in America. Say there are 20 million people that instantly gain health care coverage that previously couldn’t afford it or have pre-existing conditions.

Suddenly millions of people with everything from heart disease to arthritis to hang nails start seeking care. The burden on the current system will be huge. Doctors will be overwhelmed, but required by law to give care. Quality of care for those paying for insurance and will be diluted by those who now have free access, not to mention the costs involved. Waiting times become ridiculous. A disaster.


36 posted on 09/16/2009 8:26:35 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (All Hail the Community Organizer in Chief)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: La Lydia

As soon as the government accepted the responsibility of providing this, it would be this much per year within 2 years.


44 posted on 09/16/2009 8:32:44 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: La Lydia
Tea Party
47 posted on 09/16/2009 8:38:49 AM PDT by xeno
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-40 next last

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson