Posted on 09/10/2009 11:45:49 AM PDT by yoe
Last night, (Scott wrote about Obama's Missing Millions) These are the 16 million people who were included when President Obama said last month that 46 million Americans lack health coverage but excluded when, in his speech to Congress, Obama lowered the number to 30 million.
It seems clear that most of these missing millions (9.6 milllion, in fact) are non-citizens, and, in most of these cases, illegal immigrants. The remainder, I assume, are people who are enrolled in Medicaid or S-CHIP but didn't tell the census taker. This is the so-called "Medicaid undercount," discussed (here).
So Obama counted non-citizens as "Americans [who] don't have health coverage" in his Portsmouth, New Hampshire speech when he wanted to inflate the number of uninsured Americans so as to persuade us that there's an enormous crisis. He then discounted them when the charge that Democrats will insure illegal aliens gained traction.
Obama and his supporters want to call this charge a lie, but the "lie" begins to look true when illegal immigrants are included among those whose situation the legislation is designed to remedy -- "Americans" who don't have health coverage. The "lie" is, in fact, substantially true because Democrats have defeated all efforts to include an enforcement mechanism that would prevent illegal aliens from being covered.
Stated more concisely, in order to make his opponents out to be lying, our slippery president must now abandon his prior false statement.
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This means there is no verification. This was done intentionally by Democrats
This means any illegal alien can claim he is American and wants 0-care and no one will dispute this claim
I don’t think SCHIP existed in the 2000 year for the census takers.
The next OFFICIAL census is April 1, 2010.
Guess which demographic in the country is planning to boycott the 2010 census. Then, ask yourself- why?
Now that you mention it....ths was just sent by NAFBPO
Immigration activists urge census boycott
Hope effort spurs legislation
By Maria Sacchetti, Globe Staff | September 8, 2009
A small but vocal group of advocates is urging illegal immigrants and their supporters nationwide to boycott the 2010 Census to protest the governments inaction on immigration legislation, a move that, if successful, could cost Massachusetts and other states millions of dollars.
The campaign is setting off alarms across the United States because census figures are crucial to determining how much federal funding cities and towns receive. A large-scale boycott, state officials and prominent pro-immigrant groups warn, could force Massachusetts to cut services from school lunch programs to highway construction, and heighten its chances of losing a seat in Congress.
But proponents say the boycott would pressure politicians to address problems illegal immigrants face every day - such as long separations from their families back home - and pursue a comprehensive overhaul of the countrys immigration system that would provide a path to citizenship for millions of immigrants.
Legalize us before you count us, Fausto da Rocha, a Brazilian immigrant leader in Boston said on a talk-radio show in Quincy last week, where callers from as far away as Brunswick, Maine, expressed support for the boycott. Politics is about power and money, and by not giving your information, youll be taking away money and power from the politicians.
The proposed boycott - organized this spring by the National Coalition of Latino Clergy and Christian Leaders, a group based in Washington that represents 20,000 churches nationwide, including 300 in Massachusetts - is stirring deep divisions among immigrant communities. It faces stiff opposition from a string of advocacy groups, including the Massachusetts Immigrant and Refugee Advocacy Coalition, the Service Employees International Union, and the Brazilian Immigrant Center. To this point, the boycott effort has revolved mainly around word-of-mouth, talk radio, and blog entries by some members of participating churches.
Eliseo Medina, the SEIUs national executive vice president, called the boycott irresponsible, and Chelseas city manager, Jay Ash, said it was absolutely crazy.
While the boycott is a national effort, states with significant percentages of immigrants such as Massachusetts stand to lose more because of formulas that base federal funding on population. Last year, Massachusetts received $11.4 billion in federal funds, and people who shun the census could cost the state about $1,755 apiece, said Brian McNiff , spokesman for the Massachusetts secretary of state.
Its always disappointing to hear that any individual or organization would suggest to someone not to participate in the census when theres so much at stake, said Kathleen Ludgate, regional director for the census in Boston. We hope that people will participate in the census so well have our fair share in Boston and throughout the state.
Participation in the census is required by law every 10 years so the government can obtain an accurate count of every resident in the United States. But the fine for failure to register is only $100, and the Census Bureau has generally not pursued violators. Instead, the agency encourages participation by spending millions in advertising and on workers who speak different languages.
A boycott would put the state at risk politically, said Secretary of State William F. Galvin. Because of a population shift to the South and West, he said, Massachusetts is at risk of losing one of its 10 congressional districts.
Were on the edge of losing a seat in Congress, he said. How does it help to have fewer voices from here?
But proponents of a boycott say it is a chance to grab the attention of politicians who have failed to pass legislation addressing illegal immigrants, even as their numbers have swelled to 12 million nationwide and 190,000 in Massachusetts - or about 1 in 5 immigrants. Overall, 14 percent of the states population is foreign born; most are here legally.
I understand that this could affect the states budgets, said the Rev. Victor Jarvis of Ebenezer Christian Church in Lawrence, who supports the boycott and plans to discuss it on talk radio. But you have to do something. Otherwise, in politics, they are always going to use the most vulnerable to benefit themselves.
The idea of a boycott appears to have a sympathetic ear among many immigrants and their backers who called into the Quincy radio show last week.
In the studio, crammed into a basement of the Assembly of God Brazilian church, da Rocha and co-hosts Jose Bravo and pastor Emidio da Silva said they are pained by the stories they hear every day. They visit immigrants in jails, listen to their stories of loved ones they have not seen for years, and take complaints from workers who toiled hours in backbreaking jobs, but were never paid.
President Obama has pledged to pursue an overhaul of the immigration system during his first year in office.
Da Rocha reached out to immigrants who sweep floors or paint houses.
They count us, and you cant vote, he said in Portuguese. Youre losing your right to insurance. Its money for health, education, for the city and safety. But your safety? Thats somebody elses problem.
The calls came in right away.
I support the boycott, said Max from Everett. Immigrants have contributed so much to this country.
Another caller, a man from Everett, said he would refuse to answer any questions from census takers. The boycott is the best way to pressure the government, said the man, who did not give his name but who said he was a US citizen.
At the end of the program, 38 callers were in favor and four against, in keeping with past shows.
However, the Brazilian Ministers Network and even the Brazilian Immigrant Center, where da Rocha serves as executive director, oppose the boycott.
Eduardo Siqueira, president of the centers board, criticized da Rocha and others for tactics that he said scare immigrants into boycotting the census, in part by suggesting that the data could be used to detain them. Census officials say they do not share information with immigration officials, but da Rocha said he believes the data could be used to pinpoint where immigrants live.
Siqueira believes a boycott would do more harm than good.
It may create more antagonism against immigrants, Siqueira said. This is not a campaign that makes sense. http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/File-Based_Image_Resource/dingbat_story_end_icon.gif
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