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Does having to prove sobriety before you drive bug you?
Auto week ^ | 09-09-09 | WES RAYNAL

Posted on 09/10/2009 7:42:11 AM PDT by STONEWALLS

Let the debate begin.

Toyota Motor Corp. began testing an alcohol-detection breathalyzer that can immobilize a vehicle if the driver is wasted. Toyota is testing the device on 30 commercial vehicles in Japan. Mounted on the instrument panel, it locks the truck's ignition if it senses the driver has imbibed too much.

The idea is to give companies better control of their fleets.

(Excerpt) Read more at autoweek.com:80 ...


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...this isn't about big brother...it's about law suits.
1 posted on 09/10/2009 7:42:12 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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Seems reasonable that a private company should have the option of ensuring the employees operating its vehicles aren’t wasted.


2 posted on 09/10/2009 7:44:43 AM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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Yep. They probably drug test the drivers too.


3 posted on 09/10/2009 7:46:12 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: STONEWALLS

No problem at all if a company wants to implement this on their commercial fleets.


4 posted on 09/10/2009 7:52:35 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: STONEWALLS

What bugs me is that I can’t go to the local steak house and enjoy a good cigar after my meal, but I can get crap-faced drunk, get in a wreck and kill innocent people, and the same steak house bar will be open for business tomorrow morning. That really bugs me!


5 posted on 09/10/2009 7:53:03 AM PDT by devane617 (Republicans first strategy should be taking over the MSM. Without it we are doomed.)
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>>>>Does having to prove sobriety before you drive bug you?<<<<

Yes. But if your company does it on its commercial vehicles, you either do it or find another job.


6 posted on 09/10/2009 7:53:53 AM PDT by envisio (Foxtrot Yankee Bravo Oscar)
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Wouldn't bother me a bit if it could fairly judge reaction time and stuff like that. I do like my bourbon and other adult beverages. I'm just not sure ever lowering blood alcohol limits fairly judge whether someone is impaired or not. But a fair test might rule a lot of geezers off the road. Can't have that! (And I'm approaching geezerdom myself.)

ML/NJ

7 posted on 09/10/2009 7:55:44 AM PDT by ml/nj
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Just out there creating a whole new industry. I want to get copy write on “Can-o-Breath”.


8 posted on 09/10/2009 7:57:04 AM PDT by Steamburg ( Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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To: Sherman Logan

Looks like a germ factory that could cost the company money in lawsuits.


9 posted on 09/10/2009 7:57:05 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Capitalism is the unequal distribution of wealth. Socialism is the equal distribution of misery.)
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I think it would be a great idea to require a person who has had more than one DUI conviction to have such a device installed in their vehicle.


10 posted on 09/10/2009 7:58:28 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Capitalism is the unequal distribution of wealth. Socialism is the equal distribution of misery.)
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When I was in Europe almost 10 years ago, it seemed like Mercedes was testing this on some of their S500 models. I could be mistaken, though.


11 posted on 09/10/2009 7:58:49 AM PDT by Skenderbej
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They probably drug test the drivers too.

In the world of Liberal La-La land, this is a gross invasion of privacy. However, forcing companies like ours who drug test employees to ensure they aren't wasted to offer health insurance with complete coverage for substance abuse is perfectly normal.

12 posted on 09/10/2009 7:59:01 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: STONEWALLS

If the owning company requires it as a condition of employment for its drivers, that is their choice.

If it is the government forcing ALL drivers to do this, I have a BIG problem with the “guilty until proven innocent” aspect (although, in fairness, this is NOT the United States government).


13 posted on 09/10/2009 8:01:13 AM PDT by MortMan (Stubbing one's toes is a valid (if painful) way of locating furniture in the dark.)
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To: devane617
The last thing any reasonable person wants to smell while eating a steak is your smoking cigar (and I love to smoke cigars, used to work in a cigar shop).

I know cronic smokers have killed their own sense of smell, but mine is still quite active and I want to smell a sizzling steak, not tobacco smoke.

There is a reason to have a ‘smoking room’, and a darn good reason the dining room isn’t it.

And why would the steak house bar be responsible if someone imbibes and then breaks the law to drive while drunk?

How about a bit of personal responsibility.

14 posted on 09/10/2009 8:02:49 AM PDT by allmendream
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What geezers lack in reaction time, they more than make up for in risk avoidance. When is the last time you've seen a geezer yakking on a cell phone while driving, weaving in and out of traffic or some of the other risky behavior so common on the road.

Yeah, a lot of them drive cars like farmers drive tractors. But there is a reason auto insurance premiums from both such groups are cheaper than your average bear.

15 posted on 09/10/2009 8:04:40 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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[When is the last time you’ve seen a geezer yakking on a cell phone while driving, weaving in and out of traffic or some of the other risky behavior so common on the road.]

this morning, 140th pl. in woodinville.


16 posted on 09/10/2009 8:07:02 AM PDT by rahbert (All Kenny G, all the time)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

More critically, if a company doesn’t use the available technology and a drunk employee is involved in an accident, the company is up the tree without a paddle.


17 posted on 09/10/2009 8:11:26 AM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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Pirvate company. No problem.
Government - been convicted of drunk driving. No problem.
Government - no record of drunk driving. Problem.


18 posted on 09/10/2009 8:16:06 AM PDT by Brookhaven (http://theconservativehand.blogspot.com/)
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“Wouldn’t bother me a bit if it could fairly judge reaction time and stuff like that.”

Since a test like that would be horrendously expensive and complicated, you have to fall back on a PRACTICAL measure: Blood alcohol level. Perfect? No. Good enough to get the job done? Yes.

“But a fair test might rule a lot of geezers off the road. Can’t have that! (And I’m approaching geezerdom myself.)”

You could probably come up with a test for this that could be used once a year (often enough to ensure people that have lost the ability to drive are taken off the road.) The problem with trying to use the same test for drinking is it would probably take 30-45 minutes to administer the test. Do you really want to take a 45 minute test each time you have a drink to see if you are able to drive?


19 posted on 09/10/2009 8:21:07 AM PDT by Brookhaven (http://theconservativehand.blogspot.com/)
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But there is a reason auto insurance premiums from both such groups are cheaper

I think it is that a lot of them drive hardly any miles; and never fast enough to kill anything. Driving Miss Daisy wasn't a joke.

ML/NJ

20 posted on 09/10/2009 8:22:44 AM PDT by ml/nj
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