Posted on 09/08/2009 3:42:57 PM PDT by Moseley
This ABC News Video broadcast live on 9/11 proves that WTC 7, World Trade Center Building 7, was damaged by falling debris from the collapse of the WTC Twin Towers.
There is a huge controversy over the cause of the collapse of WTC Bldb 7, whether from the terrorist attack or from a government conspiracy with Dick Cheney, Larry Silverstein or the Mossad.
Investigators report that WTC7 was massively damaged by the collapse of the twin towers, on the lower floors.
This video DOES NOT show the lower floors through the smoke, where the severe damage was reported by firefighters.
However, this does provide absolute proof that SOME debris DID hit Building 7, near the top of the structure. Damage to the top floors, on the corner nearest to the camera POV, is unmistakable.
That damage is obviously not enough to cause failure of the building. However, this proves that debris DID travel far enough to damage WTC7. Debris falling in an arc would fall father away from the base before hitting the lower floors of WTC7.
SO this is dramatic confirmation that the accounts of damage to WTC Building 7 is entirely plausible.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW5TRGcJnAk
Most of that info was covered by the Popular Mechanics Special Report (page 4). LINK
Page 5 has the info about the structural load and unusual design contributing to WTC7's collapse. Also, it documents a pressurized diesel fuel line to a generator on the 5th floor which fed the fire for hours. LINK
Sometimes, the simplest of explanations are the most logical ones. Goofy tin-foil crackpot theories are fun, great at parties and make you feel a little like like Nancy Drew, the Hardy Boys, Sherlock Holmes or even Shaggy and Scooby.
In the end though, you just end up looking like the unbalanced screwball who walks aimlessly down the street muttering to himself about alien anal probes and talking unicorns.
You actually and singlehandedly nail a Truther!
I salute you SIR!
And thank you also...
Actually, I missed the zot.. bummer.. I like to mess with them. These truthers are so unhinged they just get worse and worse the more you poke holes in what they say.
You really brought out the kooks on this thread.
The maroons have landed but the situation is well in hand.
I do wish I found out why I am the ‘biggest troll on FR’. Oh well....
It Has to be your postings of Macho!
I can’t help but be stunned at how many are “Old Timers” to this place!
Dude, thermite is used in structural welding. It is no surprise and that report is a joke only embraced by idiots.
In other words, thermite may have been used to DISASSEMBLE the WTC rubble by the work crews, weeks after 9/11.
However, Jones did not find anything in the WTC rubble.
Remember that the airplanes were made mostly of aluminum. (The intellectual giant of the 9/11 Truthers, the then 18-year old kid who creaetd Loose Change in his bedroom, being unemployed, said that the airplanes were made of TITANIUM and steel. That would make the airplanes more expensive than if they were made of gold.)
When aluminum is in a high temperature fire, IT BURNS. Yes, steels burn. So the presence of products of metal combusion does not mean there was any thermite. Only aluminum in a fire.
LOL!
To: UNscared
Just remember all the ENRON files and other incriminating evidence just happened to be in that building.
No, they were not. ENRON was headquartered in TEXAS. The office with jursidiction over Teax companies is in TEXAS. There are no files that were outside of Texas, unless they were COPIES.
To: AnAmericanMother; UNscared
Whose generator and whose diesel? Why was that allowed?
It was to supply electricity if the power failed. The collapse of the twin towers destroyed the water supply. So the fire raged in WTC7 without any fire suppression, no sprinklers working. The fire was far worse than any other example, becasue there was no water supply in the area after the twin towers collapsed.
Why were you allowed to graduate school? One of the hallmarks of conspiracy theorists is the unrealistic belief that everything happens perfectly and nothing ever happens that isn’t 100% perfect and wise.
No other sreel structured building has ever collaped due to fire. Please do your own research.
Suddenly, THREE buildings collapse one the same day. Sorry, but I’m a realist.
FReepapalooza
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That is utter nonsense. First, it is false. Many other steel buildings have collapsed due to fire alone — with no aircraft impact damage. A famous bank building burned to the ground — though made of steel — in NYC 100 years ago. Architectural reviws of the famous bank fire and collapse wrote that “STEEL IS ONE OF THE WORST CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS TO SURVIVE A FIRE”
The McCormack Place Exhibition Building collapsed in only 30 minutes from fire alone in Chicago around 1968.
Dozens of steel skyscrapers have partially collapsed. That is, sprinklers and fire fighters were able to put the fire out after it reached only a few floors. YET THOSE FLOORS COLLAPSED, despite the steel construction.
Second, it is irrelevant because the WTC towers collapsed NOT from fire alone but from massive physical damage from a 140 ton aircraft striking at 540 MPH.
So the comment is deceitful, dishonet, and deceptive.
Third, when three things happen at once it means that we doubt they are UNRELATED. We look for a common cause.
Because there was a common cause, there is nothing remarkable about 3 buildings in the same complex being destroyed by the same, common cause.
There were seven trade center buildings, putz.
Who held the insurance policies on these buildings?
Larry Siverstein owned the the five trade center buidings, I don’t know about the one you mentioned. Please do your own research.
FReepapalooza
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No, the WTC buildings were and are owned by the NY Port Authority — an agency of the New York State government in cooperation with the New Jersey State government. That is why security was provided by the New York City police, a division called the Port Authority Police.
Silverstein Properties held a 99 year lease, but did not own the WTC.
The insurance policies were SHARED between Silverstein Properties and the NY Port Authority as co-insurers.
NO ONE CAN PROFIT from the insurance policies. To rebuidl the WTC, the co-insurers must present RECEIPTS or contracts for teh construction work. They do not get a lump sum. They must present documentation that the money is being spent for recosntruction the buildings.
SP can also get reimbursement for its lost rental income, but only what SP actually lost — nothing more.
SP owes the NYPA $100 million a year under the lease, and they SP has no income coming in from tenants because the buildings are destroyed.
“if you are too lazy to educate yourself, basically, a hard piece of steel can be made more mailable simply by running a torch quickly over it”
Yes, with a #10 oxy-acetylene fed rosebud. But the flame is 1280 degrees; about three times as hot as jet fuel burns uncontained.
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No, National Geographic just broadcast its test of this. Their experts EMTC filled a pit with jet fuel and placed a steel beam across it.
The jet fuel reached 2,000 degrees F in about 1 minute, and the steel beam folded like a wet noodle in 3 1/2 minutes.
HOW DO YOU THINK MEDIEVAL BLACKSMITHS MADE SWORDS AND SUITS OF ARMOR? Steel would be worthless if it could not be shaped into useful shapes. The reason that steel is so useful is that it is EASY to soften it with heat and reshape it to suit our needs.
It doesn’t take full temperature, depending on the alloy, time of exposure can make it mailable. Different alloys require it reaching a different “Curie temperature” to anneal. Pure Iron has a Curie temp of around 1,000K but if it is an Iron/Zinc alloy, for example, is something like 20% lower.
mnehring
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My father graduated from MIT in metallurgy and worked in a steel foundry near Buffalo. (He later went to medical school, though because working in a steel foundry was very hot and loud and miserable.)
GUESS WHAT FUEL STEEL FOUNDRIES USE TO MELT STEAL?
Basically home heating oil... very similar to kerosene (jet fuel).
How do you think people who work with setell melt steel? MAGIC?
I'm afraid the enemy right now lives among us.
Kramer?
2 110 story buildings collapse and the falling debris damages and destroys other nearby buildings. Not exactly something that taxes any brain with common sense.
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