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WTC7 Caught on Tape -- WTC Building 7 Damaged by Debris from Twin Towers on 9/11
ABC News (Television) ^ | Sept 11, 2001 | ABC News

Posted on 09/08/2009 3:42:57 PM PDT by Moseley

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To: narses

It’s common practice around the country so I’m not certain why you act surprised and ask why it’s allowed? This was a problem in NOLA during Katrina as well, when the hospitals diesel generators were flooded or ran out of diesel...


101 posted on 09/08/2009 10:27:28 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: AnAmericanMother
When you look at how those buildings were constructed, it was pretty clear if one part of the structure was removed/weakened they could easily fall like dominos, the NYTimes -- at the time -- had some very good graphics of the structures, where they were hit and how they went down... and the NYT was certainly not going to cover for a GOP administration...

To this day truthers never explain Flight 77 and what happened to the passengers, have they?

102 posted on 09/08/2009 10:32:39 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: 3IDVET

I think it all started from some so-called school kids who claimed they were told not to go to school that day because something was going to happen to those buildings, I remember hearing someone talk about it on talk radio right after 911 and being shocked that people were already making claims of this sort so soon after the attack on our country.


103 posted on 09/08/2009 10:36:07 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn

The truther’s explanations of Flight 77 piss myself and a lot of other FReepers off more than any because a great FReeper, Barbara Olson was on that flight.

The conspiracy claims all the passengers were selected because of military backgrounds or government ties and were part of the conspiracy.


104 posted on 09/08/2009 10:47:50 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring

Yes, I know she was.


105 posted on 09/08/2009 11:08:35 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Yes it did start there and also with the message on the Israeli web sight before 911 wishing all 4000 Jews in NY City the best of luck or some thing to that affect the day before, of course Arab web sights got a hold of it, and you can guess what happened from there. I have personally fought these people they’re all the same be it aq, hezbollah, you name it their ultimate goal is to destroy the USA and establish an islamic state and they won’t stop til then. I just hope with the people in power now, we can stand up to but I lose heart more and more every day. But of course when I get down I come to Free republic and I’m rejuvenated..


106 posted on 09/08/2009 11:12:55 PM PDT by 3IDVET (REMEMBER TF-RANGER THE MOG 3/4 OCT 93 FIRST BATTLE IN THE WOT, HEROES ALL)
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To: FReepapalooza
Sorry, but I’m a realist.

No, you're an idiot.

If this was a conspiracy, why has no one come forth with the people involved? Watergate broke down and that didn't involve treason. Abu Graib was found out quickly. This would involve a massive conspiracy at the highest levels of the government, yet no one has been shown to be involved.

Denying the reality of 9/11 is sheer idiocy and you, sir, are an idiot.

107 posted on 09/08/2009 11:29:13 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: Iron Munro

You!!!

that hurt my eyes!


108 posted on 09/09/2009 12:02:21 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: FReepapalooza
No other sreel structured building has ever collaped due to fire. Please do your own research.

Hi Rosie, here's a list of multiple buildings made of steel that burned and collapsed as a result of the fire.

Oops. That sound you heard? Your last shred of credibility being ripped away...

109 posted on 09/09/2009 12:11:33 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the Defense of the Indefensible)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood; mnehring

mnehring

Help.

Sir Francis Dashwood is taking us to task and reporting us to Art Bell.

I will need to expand my check list.

Karl Rove was behind 9-11 CHECK
Bush was behind dynamiting 9th ward levees CHECK
Clinton was impeached only for sex. CHECK
Mikhail Gorbachev ended the Cold War, not Ronald Reagan. CHECK
Al Gore invented the Internet. CHECK

New ones

* Jeb Bush let hurricane Katrina get past Florida. CHECK
Halliburton built secret weather machine in Cheney’s secret basement. CHECK
* CHEMTRAILS blew airplanes off course and into WTC CHECK
* Ronald Reagan planted explosives with black helicopters before WTC was finished. CHECK
* Nixon was cloned from aliens at Roswell so he could time travel and kidnap those innocent terrorists for the flights on 9-11 CHECK
* Steven King killed John Lennon and we still don’t know connection between Mark Chapman and Jack Ruby CHECK


110 posted on 09/09/2009 4:44:32 AM PDT by Sparko (Obama & Czars: neutering the American Voter, perverting the Constitution, all on our dime.)
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To: FReepapalooza
Don't you know that all insurance policies have an exclusion for "enemy action", which has been held to include terrorism?

So far you have demonstrated pretty total ignorance of metallurgy and fire investigation. You now add insurance law for the trifecta.

Do your own research, indeed. Try researching somewhere other than crazy Truther sites . . . .

111 posted on 09/09/2009 4:46:20 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: mnehring

Party’s over. Your truther chew toy is no more. LOL.


112 posted on 09/09/2009 4:50:29 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Proud FR Mobster)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
The construction's sometimes called "tube within a tube", and that's exactly what it is. Instead of a grid of welded/bolted steel beams with redundancy, the steel structure was confined to the central core and the outer skin, to save space. Once the integrity of the connections between the inner and outer tube was breached, collapse was inevitable.

There's a remarkable book written by a couple of structural engineers called Why Buildings Fall Down. The overarching theme of the book is that smart architects and engineers build redundancy into their buildings -- if one part fails there are other parts to take up the stress. Almost every structural collapse in the book was due to a failure to design sufficient redundancy into the structure. But redundancy is expensive, so . . . .

113 posted on 09/09/2009 5:02:30 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Moseley
Hasn't an insurer raised the 'enemy action' exclusion yet?

Maybe the public outcry would be too great to insist on it, or maybe they are content for the time being to ride on the lease and proof of actual cost provisions . . . ?

114 posted on 09/09/2009 5:04:41 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Arizona Carolyn

We received an email a few hours before the planes hit that warned our students overseas of a possible terrorist attack. It was in response to some terrorist being sentenced in NYC on that day.

I still have the email.


115 posted on 09/09/2009 5:10:34 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Sparko

Chemtrails....Pig Flu.

Can you prove that are NOT connected?

(dramatic music here)


116 posted on 09/09/2009 5:11:54 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: mnehring

The truther’s explanations of Flight 77 piss myself and a lot of other FReepers off more than any because a great FReeper, Barbara Olson was on that flight.
mnehring

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Yes, this is exactly what got me involved in debating these people. Another factor that got the conspiracy theories rolling (along with people confusing the photograph of the 16 foot EXIT hole on the far side of the inner C Ring with the 90 foot wide ENTRY hole 270 feet away on the outside of the E Ring),

was the complaint that Ted Olson told CNN that Barbara Olson had called him and told him that Flight 77 had been hijacked by Arab-looking and Arab-accented men.

The reaction was that no husband who had just lost his wife would call the CNN news desk in Atlanta to provide this information, so it must be a made-up story.

However, I happened to know what REALLY happened. That day was Ted Olson’s birthday, and a number of his friends were already planning to go to his house for dinner (without Barbara to her chagrin). My brother in law was among a couple of dozen friends who went over to Ted Olson’s house to comfort Ted Olson in the midst of his grief.

One of those friends who was there comforting Ted Olson was a CNN reporter. Remember that Barbara Olson was a CNN commentator. As Ted poured out his grief, he explained what had happened. The CNN reporter asked if he could share Ted’s account of what took place, and Ted agreed.

So I tried to patiently and helpfully explain to these people on the internet the truth. I was shocked to discover that they had no interest in the truth, and only wanted to spread lies.


117 posted on 09/09/2009 8:34:41 AM PDT by Moseley (http://www.ShaleOilNow.com/GOPBigTent.html)
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To: AppyPappy

Can you share the email, to contact@jonmoseley.com ?


118 posted on 09/09/2009 8:39:11 AM PDT by Moseley (http://www.ShaleOilNow.com/GOPBigTent.html)
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To: Sparko

Bush was an idiot, who was capable of stringing together an entire cabal to bring down towers, etc, hiding thousands of people probably at Greenbrier, and make it look like plane attacks, all in the span of 8 months. Well, maybe he was working with Bill Clinton to do it.


119 posted on 09/09/2009 9:57:43 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Absolutely, no doubt about it. I have the evidence, but cannot share it in public due to fear for my safety.


120 posted on 09/09/2009 10:01:10 AM PDT by Sparko (Obama & Czars: neutering the American Voter, perverting the Constitution, all on our dime.)
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