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Scouts to no longer bring penknives on camping trips(UK)
The Telegraph ^ | 6 September, 2009 | Chris Irvine

Posted on 09/08/2009 4:51:16 AM PDT by marktwain

Scouts will soon have to survive without their trusty penknives on camping trips thanks to Britain's growing knife crime culture. Scouts used to be allowed to carry sheath knives on their belts New advice published in Scouting, the official in-house magazine, says neither Scouts nor their parents should bring penknives to camp except in "specific" situations. Scouts have traditionally been taught how to use knives correctly, using them on camping trips to cut firewood or carve tools.At one point Scouts were allowed to carry a sheath knife on their belt as part of their uniform although this is no longer the case. In recent years the Scout Association guidance has been that parents should carry knives to camps or meetings.

Dave Budd, a knife-maker who runs courses training Scouts about the safe use of blades, wrote that the growing problem of knife crime meant action had to be taken.

"Sadly, there is now confusion about when a Scout is allowed to carry a knife," he wrote. "The series of high-profile fatal stabbings [has] highlighted a growing knife culture in the UK.

"I think it is safest to assume that knives of any sort should not be carried by anybody to a Scout meeting or camp, unless there is likely to be a specific need for one. In that case, they should be kept by the Scout leaders and handed out as required."

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: banglist; knives; scouts; uk
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This is where blaming inanimate objects takes a society. This is insane.
1 posted on 09/08/2009 4:51:17 AM PDT by marktwain
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How do they then play Mumbly Peg [or mumbley peg, mumblety peg, mumble peg, mumble-the-peg, mumbypeg, or mumble de peg]?


2 posted on 09/08/2009 4:54:55 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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The “growing knife culture” fits right in with the growing Muslim culture.


3 posted on 09/08/2009 4:56:14 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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The series of high-profile fatal stabbings [has] highlighted a growing knife culture in the UK.

So your socialist utopia banned guns, and now people are stabbing each other. Who would have thought? Are they going to take away rocks, pointy sticks?
4 posted on 09/08/2009 4:56:23 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world, and they are all out to get me.)
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To: marktwain

I am certain the criminal elements in the UK as well as terrorists have all turned in their knives as well as their guns so everybody is now so safe. Denying Boy Scouts penknives for public safety is ludicrous beyond belief. I suppose the scouts have to eat with plastic tableware or would that somehow screw up the environment.


5 posted on 09/08/2009 4:58:37 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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"take away rocks, pointy sticks?"

No more glass windows, beer bottles.

6 posted on 09/08/2009 4:58:45 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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No more glass windows, beer bottles.

Or fresh fruit.

7 posted on 09/08/2009 5:03:06 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world, and they are all out to get me.)
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FTA:

A Scouts spokesman said: "We believe that young people need more places to go after school and at weekends, where they can experience adventure without the threat of violence or bullying and the need to carry weapons. <>/i>

"Scouting helps to prepare young people with valuable life skills, while keeping them safe by not carrying knives."

Funny thing about my days in Scouting. My buddies and I all carried the largest possible sheath knives we could and none of us felt threatened or bullied by any of the others. If one of us could have brought a machine gun along, he would have, probably with no worse consequences.

8 posted on 09/08/2009 5:05:42 AM PDT by libstripper
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It was also a great opportunity to play with matches.


9 posted on 09/08/2009 5:10:12 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: libstripper

Love that MiniEngland nannystate.


10 posted on 09/08/2009 5:11:37 AM PDT by Flintlock
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This article was discussed last nite at length. However, it certainly bears repeating.

This retired Boy Scout is of the firm view that every self-respecting UK Boy Scout Leader and his Boy Scouts should feel quite free to ignore this foolish guidance and continue to carry scout knives as per normal.

A Boy Scout without a pocketknife is an Unprepared Scout, a disgrace to his Scout Uniform, a living example of what a Scout should never be.

If any UK Boy Scout or Scout Leader is prosecuted then the hat should be passed worldwide and the matter taken to HM Courts. With any luck the case will be heard by a retired Boy Scout Judge, who will then put *paid* to the matter.

Crikey! This dam’nfoolishness must not be permitted to prevail. Boy Scouts without Scout knives — whatever next! ‘Strewth!


11 posted on 09/08/2009 5:13:45 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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Hey Chris......

This is you ass

This is a hole in the ground.


12 posted on 09/08/2009 5:13:51 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . fasl el-khital)
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When I was in Junior High, that was a favorite game at lunch time. My knife was a yellow handled case beauty with a blade at least three inches long. It had a sharp edge and point and was painful when flipping off the knuckles

Mumbley peg was the game. Root a peg was forbidden


13 posted on 09/08/2009 5:16:57 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . fasl el-khital)
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So your socialist utopia banned guns, and now people are stabbing each other. Who would have thought? Are they going to take away rocks, pointy sticks?

And water, baseball bats, rope, belts, bull whips, axes, locking strip ties, plastic bags, wire, cloth, pillows, awls, tent pegs, broken windows, saws, cars, carbon monoxide, all manner of drugs, ice picks, beer bottles, oleander and other plants, etc., etc.

And when all else fails, bare hands. How will they ban them?

14 posted on 09/08/2009 5:17:12 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: marktwain

Sooner or later the UK is going to have to address the real issue, and that is that their society has raised a generation that is determined to inflict injury and death on itself by any means available, and attempting to remove those means will not change their character or remove the problem.


15 posted on 09/08/2009 5:20:07 AM PDT by Spok
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There are two laws on the books in the UK, the Knives Act and the Dangerous Weapons Act.

The combo does actually ban knife carrying by Scouts, the laws have been around for a while.

I’m surprised it’s coming up now.


16 posted on 09/08/2009 5:21:05 AM PDT by DBrow
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Scouts to no longer bring penknives on camping trips(UK)

More socialist, pantywaste BULL$hit. Disgusting. Churchill is probably turning over in his grave.

17 posted on 09/08/2009 5:22:04 AM PDT by GoldenPup
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And when all else fails, bare hands. How will they ban them?

I'm fairly sure that 12 meter long giant ants are alreay illegal.

18 posted on 09/08/2009 5:22:54 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world, and they are all out to get me.)
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I guess I can take my wife to Britain now, we had been afraid to go because of the danger of being stabbed to death by a Boy Scout.

Folks, I was born in 1944, I carried a pocketknife from the time I entered grade school as did most boys. Sometimes the teacher would need to open a package in class and she would borrow a knife from one of the boys. We had a pot bellied coal burning stove in each classroom and sometimes if there was no kindling in the room one of us boys would go outside and cut kindling with an axe. I was using an axe at home as soon as I had the strength to swing it which means shortly after my height exceeded the length of the axe handle. We are raising a bunch of helpless, mixed up boys these days. When boys are not allowed to be boys they don’t grow up to be men, they grow up to be metrosexuals.


19 posted on 09/08/2009 5:46:21 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Change has come to America and all hope is gone.)
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To: bert

Note that there is a Nerd Test v 2.0.


20 posted on 09/08/2009 5:47:42 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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