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Myth exposed: Mombasa was NOT part of Zanzibar in 1961!
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Posted on 09/07/2009 2:46:50 PM PDT by conimbricenses

I do not purport to take a stance on the Obama birth certificate controversy, save to say that his refusal to release the full document is suspicious. I do take issue with falsehoods being put up in Obama's defense though. One of those falsehoods is currently being used to "debunk" the rumor that Obama was born in Mombassa, Kenya instead of Hawaii. The false claim is that Mombassa was part of Zanzibar in 1961 when Obama was born, and it is being repeated without scrutiny by the slothful mainstream media.

As with so many things about Obama, this claim is false. Mombassa and Zanzibar were both part of the British Protectorate of East Africa in 1961. Zanzibar is an island 30 miles off the coast of Africa and well south of Kenya. Mombassa was briefly a part of Zanzibar in 1963 due to the partitioning and independence of Great Britain's various colonial holdings. It was ceded to the newly formed nation of Kenya later that year. In 1961 though, Mombassa was definitely part of the British East African Protectorate and had been for over half a century.

A little history of Mombassa:

Mombassa, a prominent port city, was formally annexed by the Sultan of Zanzibar in 1887. As British presence grew in the region of what would become Kenya, the Sultan formally reliquished the administration (though not title of land) to Mombassa to Britain in 1887. In 1890 the Heligoland-Zanzibar Treaty between Britain and Germany gave Zanzibar and all its holdings to Britain. The last resistance against British rule on Zanzibar island was quashed in the Anglo-Zanzibar war of 1896, and the puppet administration Britain installed there formally gave up any claim to Mombassa in 1898. Mombassa remained firmly in British hands until Zanzibar's independence in 1963 shortly before Kenya's. This includes the time when Barack Obama was born. Not only that, but Mombassa was actually the CAPITAL of British East Africa from 1898 to 1905, before it was moved to the present capital of Nairobi.

A simple glance at any historical map of Africa reveals that the claims about Mombassa being a part of Zanzibar are a myth (largely because Mombassa and Zanzibar were BOTH part of the British East Africa protectorate at this time in history). Simply look at the following images and see for yourself. Mombassa is on the mainland just west of the 40 degree longitude and the 4 degree latitude intersection.

1876 pre-British map of Africa - Mombassa (known as Mombas) is part of Zanguebar (Zanzibar)

1892 German Map of Africa - Mombassa (listed as Mombas) is part of "Brit. Ost-Afrika" and "Sansibar" is a British Protectorate. This map was drawn shortly after Britain acquired Zanzibar, and thus Mombassa, in 1890

1895 Map of Africa - Shows Mombassa, along with the island of Zanzibar, as part of British East Africa.

1900 Map of Africa - Mombassa is part of British East Africa

1911 British East Africa Map - Shows Mombassa in British East Africa (the island of Zanzibar is also included as a British protectorate)

1913 Map of Africa - Mombassa is part of British East Africa

1922 Map of Africa - Mombassa is part of Kenya Colony, British East Africa

1960 National Geographic Map of Africa - Africa as it approximately appeared at the time of Obama's birth. Mombassa is part of "Keyna, U.K." as is Zanzibar Island.

Here are several additional historical maps of Africa showing Mombassa. Each proves that the claim about Mombassa being a part of Zanzibar at Obama's birth is a myth.


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KEYWORDS: africa; barackhusseinobama; barackobama; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; colb; hussein; kenya; mombassa; obama; obamabirth; obamafamily; zanzibar
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To: El Gato

Yep...it will be interesting today.
Good luck Orly Taits and Lucas Smith...
Gods speed...


41 posted on 09/08/2009 7:57:29 AM PDT by etraveler13
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To: RWGinger
but using untruths to debunk something is typical laziness of media and obama allows and encourages misinformation

Laziness perhaps, but I think it is more "managed news", misinformation by omission. Not only does Obama encourage it, he depends on it. He is a liar and a fraud and that could easily be revealed if our media were journalists instead of co-conspirators.

42 posted on 09/08/2009 7:58:30 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

I think you are correct. And that should make us all outraged
I know MSM is losing numbers but their numbers are still large enough and their influence is far reaching, for now.

I wish there was a way to speed up their demise or a way to get to more millions to show them a way to get all sides of an issue or story


43 posted on 09/08/2009 8:06:32 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: RWGinger
wish there was a way to speed up their demise or a way to get to more millions to show them a way to get all sides of an issue or story

I agree. Unfortunately, the only news most people see is the evening news from the MSM which follows their local news to which they tune in to get the weather and latest sports scores.

Talk radio and the internet are rising in influence and are adding listeners/viewers. That is leaving a big dent in the MSM so there is hope. That is also why Obama and the Democrats want to shut both down.

44 posted on 09/08/2009 8:20:30 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

Robot
This. “That is also why Obama and the Democrats want to shut both down” is creeping toward reality and of course MSM is cheering it on.
I expect the move to shut down to accererate after this summer’s push back against obama and after they had to let Jones go

I don’t know if there is anyone to stop it. obama has snagged more power than any president since FDR .

Thank GOD for places like Free Republic


45 posted on 09/08/2009 8:36:50 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: steve-b; All

This bogus "African Birth Certificate" doesn't say "British Protectorate of East Africa", ergo, it's a fraud. QED.

Steve, there's more to this story here. I can't speak for the document(s) having not seen them, but just because the documents don't have "British Protectorate of East Africa" stamped across it, it does NOT necessarily mean the docs are bogus, especially for a non-governmental entity as a hospital. The registrar's office at the time was going through changes in the early 60's, too — see indications of that below.

The Muslims who lived in the Zanj, or ten-mile (coastal) strip which surrounded Mombasa (note the spelling), were a very strong political force for the Brits to contend with. The Brits gave the “arabs” of the small, but strategically-important region, more latitude and autonomy than the rest of the protectorate to prevent unrest by the radicals there. Peace talks in London in 1961 (AND BEFORE) signaled that the UK would eventually have to give up the region back to the locals who lived there:

Before Kenya became independent and at the beginning of the Lancaster House constitutional talks, the British Government and the Sultan appointed a commissioner, James R. Robertson in September 1961 ‘to report to the Sultan of Zanzibar and Her Majesty's Government jointly on the changes which are considered to be advisable in the 1895 Agreement relating to the coastal strip of Kenya as a result of the course of constitutional development of East Africa.’ He visited the Kenya Colony, the coastal strip and Zanzibar (note: considered to be three different regions) to collect the views of all the stakeholders. Views were divided as to whether the coastal strip should be treated as a single entity with Kenya Colony, or whether it should be handed back to the Sultan of Zanzibar or it be treated as an independent entity and declared Independent. (source: KENYA REVIEW COMMISSION ON THE KADHI'S COURTS)

Part of the deal in which the Sultan of Zanzibar surrendered his Sovereignty claims over the Coastal strip on Oct 5, 1963, was consideration that the Kenya Government would CONTINUE to respect and safeguard the maintenance of the Sharia Law for Muslims and the retention of the Kadhi’s Courts. They were concerned they would be annexed by other countries who followed different factions of Islam.

There's plenty of newspapers articles that indicates the people in the Zanj region FORMALLY called themselves KENYA before the rest of the nation. They "formally" became KENYA, on Oct 5, 1963, before rest of the British Protectorate gained its independence from the UK on Dec 12, 1963 — most people are unaware of this (because Wiki doesn't say so - LOL)! Information regarding this is in the LONG 10,000-plus post thread, around the 5,000-post point and beyond. It was a pride and independence thing for the people on Mombasa and the surrounding Zanj, or ten-mile strip region. It was also a VERY important aspect of LAND OWNERSHIP, which is still fought by the people who live there in 2009.


46 posted on 09/08/2009 9:00:30 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: steve-b

It would appear that Mombasa became the capital of the British Protectorate of Kenya in 1920...so that is correct on the Lucas Smith certificate.
http://encyclopedia.farlex.com/Mombasa,+Kenya


47 posted on 09/10/2009 11:40:39 AM PDT by denyfolly
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To: Marty

Please don’t use wikipedia as a reference. As a teacher, I can tell you that I don’t accept wikipedia as a reference for my students, and neither does any other teacher I know. In fact, referencing wikipedia will net you an automatic F on your paper. Wikipedia is ultimately just two people’s opinion. You should only use it to get ideas to research.It is not an encylopedia.


48 posted on 09/11/2009 7:02:42 AM PDT by Truth Exists (Faux birth announcements)
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To: conimbricenses; BP2

Curious .. the photography site of his son has been scrubbed.

http://www.angawaimages.com/

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Google search result:

William Ang’awa Stock Images
My father the late Dr James Ang’awa influenced my love for photography. ... Mexico 1968 (whilst being the doctor for the Kenya Olympic team) are now lost. ...
www.angawaimages.com/ - Cached - Similar

http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=en&source=hp&q=Ang%27awa+Kenya+Kenya+Olympics+team&btnG=Google+Search

This is Google’s cache of http://www.angawaimages.com/. It is a snapshot of the page as it appeared on Sep 9, 2009 16:22:27 GMT. The current page could have changed in the meantime. Learn more

Text-only version
These terms only appear in links pointing to this page: ang awa kenya kenya olympics tea

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:_MxkmkKrCcAJ:www.angawaimages.com/+Ang%27awa+Kenya+Kenya+Olympics+team&cd=7&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a


49 posted on 09/13/2009 10:28:24 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: conimbricenses

Zanzibar, Zanzibar,
Zanzibar is very far.
You can’t get there in a car.
It’s too far to Zanzibar.


50 posted on 09/13/2009 10:31:49 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Can YOU get there by Gnu?


51 posted on 09/13/2009 10:34:16 PM PDT by woofie
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To: woofie

I bet I could get there on a speedy motorcycle.


52 posted on 09/13/2009 10:47:07 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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