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1 posted on
09/06/2009 5:16:18 PM PDT by
pissant
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To: pissant
Even though it should, I don’t think this birth certificate thing is going to rid us of the cancer that is Obama. We are stuck with an ILLEGAL ‘president’ for the next 3.5 years. Heavy sigh.
2 posted on
09/06/2009 5:23:06 PM PDT by
teletech
(Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
To: pissant
I, Joseph Robinette Biden, Jr., do solemnly swear....
To: pissant
>In his filing, Smith declares that he traveled to Kenya in February and paid off a military officer in order to obtain a copy of the birth certificate from Coast General Hospital in Mombasa. The declaration also states that the hospital administrator signed and sealed the copy, which indicates Obama's birth in Africa on Aug. 4, 1961, at 7:24 p.m.
It's a document
he got by bribing someone.
I'm not sure a judge
will consider that
as a piece of "evidence."
The people he bribed
may have just taken
his money and given him
a made-up paper...
To: pissant
At the very least, this is quite interesting news...
7 posted on
09/06/2009 5:25:52 PM PDT by
sirchtruth
(Gravity Of The Situation...)
To: pissant
I was listening to Mike Church on XM for the 1st time today. He said the “birthers” have no ground to stand on and that the BC has been proven and clarified as authentic. he said “Leave it alone”. Does anyone know anything about this twit.
11 posted on
09/06/2009 5:32:26 PM PDT by
albie
To: pissant
To: pissant
Aw, what the heck. It’s seems real enough for me.
14 posted on
09/06/2009 5:33:35 PM PDT by
donhunt
(“Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them.” - Ronald Reagan)
To: pissant
Black ink pad ....................................... $3.50
Moist alcohol towlette............................... $0.35
Court order for Obama to present his right foot.......Priceless
15 posted on
09/06/2009 5:35:11 PM PDT by
SpaceBar
To: pissant
It’s funny because during the primaries and campaign season, some foreign media wrote of ‘foreign born’ Obama or Kenyan Obama, sometimes referencing the Hawaii birth info or the resulting discrepancy. But many of them seemed to assume, rightly or wrongly, that Obama was not born in the US. But those here who question it, or even wonder why the foreign press would keep printing it, are considered the problem?
19 posted on
09/06/2009 5:39:49 PM PDT by
fortunecookie
(Please pray for Anna, age 7, who waits for a new kidney.)
To: pissant
WND has been on the wrong side of the Smith BC for awhile now. They haven't had much to say on it till now. Even now rehashing old stuff they posted earlier. Like “Jerome Corsi investigation into the Smith BC” WHAT INVESTIGATION? He looked at the crappy video we all saw, some INVESTIGATION.
Then they talk about looking at the “enhanced” video, again that we all saw. It was WORSE than the original video. SOME INVESTIGATION. No mention of the posting on FR of a VERY good image of the Smith BC. Maybe Jerome's investigation MISSED it. Jerome Corsi should RESIGN just like his fellow “TRUTHER” Van Jones did. Here at FR Orly's Kenyan BC can not be proven to be a forgery (we had a real in depth investigation over 10,000 posts). Yet WND DECLARES it a forgery, it must be then. Must be Jerome Corsi did one of his in depth investigations. WND has done SOME good, but do I trust their info? HELL NO. Verify! They have been dead right and dead wrong. This is just the latest example of wrong.
25 posted on
09/06/2009 5:52:13 PM PDT by
faucetman
(Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
To: wintertime
29 posted on
09/06/2009 6:08:02 PM PDT by
wintertime
(People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
To: pissant
Click for more info
Clearing the Smoke on Obamas Eligibility: An Intelligence Investigators June 10 Report
"The Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii
In the State of Hawaii, back in 1961, there were four different ways to get an original birth certificate on record.
BC1. If the birth was attended by a physician or mid wife, the attending medical professional was required to certify to the Department of Health the facts of the birth date, location, parents identities and other information. (See Section 57-8 & 9 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii which was in effect in 1961).
BC2. In 1961, if a person was born in Hawaii but not attended by a physician or midwife, then all that was required was that one of the parents send in a birth certificate to be filed. The birth certificate could be filed by mail. There appears to have been no requirement for the parent to actually physically appear before the local registrar of the district.
It would have been very easy for a relative to forge an absent parents signature to a form and mail it in.
In addition, if a claim was made that neither parent of the newborn child whose birth is unattended as above provided is able to prepare a birth certificate, the local registrar shall secure the necessary information from any person having knowledge of the birth and prepare and file the certificate. (Section 57-8&9)
.... there is and was no requirement for a physician or midwife to witness, state or report that the baby was born in Hawaii.
BC3. In 1961, if a person was born in Hawaii but not attended by a physician or midwife, then, up to the first birthday of the child, a Delayed Certificate could be filed, which required that a summary statement of the evidence submitted in support of the acceptance for delayed filing or the alteration [of a file] shall be endorsed on the certificates, which evidence shall be kept in a special permanent file.
The statute provided that the probative value of a delayed or altered certificate shall be determined by the judicial or administrative body or official before whom the certificate is offered as evidence. (See Section 57- 9, 18, 19 & 20 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii which was in effect in 1961).
BC4. If a child is born in Hawaii, for whom no physician or mid wife filed a certificate of live birth, and for whom no Delayed Certificate was filed before the first birthday, then a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth could be issued upon testimony of an adult (including the subject person [i.e. the birth child as an adult]) if the Office of the Lieutenant Governor was satisfied that a person was born in Hawaii, provided that the person had attained the age of one year.
(See Section 57-40 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii which was in effect in 1961.)
In 1955 the secretary of the Territory was in charge of this procedure. In 1960 it was transferred to the Office of the Lieutenant Governor (the lieutenant governor, or his secretary, or such other person as he may designate or appoint from his office §338-41 [in 1961]).
In 1982, the vital records law was amended to create a fifth kind of original birth certificate. Under Act 182 H.B. NO. 3016-82, Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that the proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.
In this way state policies and procedures accommodate even children born out of State (this is the actual language of Act 182) with an original birth certificate on record.
31 posted on
09/06/2009 6:14:02 PM PDT by
Diogenesis
("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
To: pissant
Somehow, somewhere, there is a US Court that will hear this case. I am hopeful that this is the one, but recent history is not promising.
IMO, 0bama is ineligible to hold the office he occupies, until he resolves this issue. It is a critical Constitutional issue and deserves a full and complete hearing and resolution.
Do the right thing, Mr. 0bama. Do the right thing.
It’s time to take back the country.
32 posted on
09/06/2009 6:14:35 PM PDT by
PubliusMM
(RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
To: pissant
Ok now this is getting silly.
Selling it on ebay ?
I don’t think he’s a citizen not for a minute but stunts like this have to be done by the 5th column.
37 posted on
09/06/2009 6:27:02 PM PDT by
lucias_clay
(All We Weed Up !)
To: pissant
If a relative of Obama’s can ask for a copy, why doesn't someone have his half brother living in a hut request a copy of Obama’s Hawaiian birth certificate.
Seems like he could be persuaded to ask for it, given the right incentive.
39 posted on
09/06/2009 6:30:16 PM PDT by
FR_addict
(www.conservativesinactionusa.com)
To: pissant
World Nut Daily needs to drop this foolishness. Think about it, there is a reason Cheney and Palin, who by the way can’t stand Obama, are not boarding this crazy train. They both know they’d lose all credibility and be lumped with fools who also believe Bush bombed the towers. Next I expect World Nut Daily and that crazy Taitz broad to charge Cheney, Bush, McCain and Palin as co-conspirators for not backing their birther lunacy.
To: pissant
Mr. Smith should post his travel itinerary to Kenya, and preferably show any ticketing or other paperwork that he has demonstrating that this trip was made.
He is committing himself to a serious course of action; his original action of selling on E-Bay was also one, since he could easily have been brought up on criminal fraud charges if a sale had gone through with a large final sale price and the document then turned out to be a fake. It's not unknown for people to undertake bold fraud, of course, but he is showing a persistence that doesn't tailor well with just simple fraud, where generally the fraudster avoids publicity rather than seeking it.
I am very curious to see how all this plays out. I would also very much like to see any similar document from this hospital.
67 posted on
09/06/2009 8:50:59 PM PDT by
snowsislander
(NRA -- join today! 1-877-NRA-2000)
To: pissant
69 posted on
09/06/2009 9:49:28 PM PDT by
FreeManWhoCan
("By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes.")
To: pissant; All
Just wondering ...
Is Orly Taitz filing for a Writ Qou Warranto in her lawsuit ???
70 posted on
09/06/2009 10:01:10 PM PDT by
Lmo56
To: pissant
Isn’t this all about discovery? WND was one of the first which said it was a fake/fraud....Mr. Smith realizes this is perjury therefore he would not have ever taken these steps if it was a fake.
72 posted on
09/06/2009 10:19:28 PM PDT by
shield
(A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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