Posted on 09/04/2009 8:50:36 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
Once again, a NASA space probe is supporting the 6,000-year biblical age of the solar system...
(Excerpt) Read more at creation.com ...
Gives me away how? As what?
All I can see here here, GGG, is that the goat didn't answer your question.
It's getting to be a tired trend with these kinds of pretenders and posers bumbling from thread to thread, never answering the most simple of direct questions; many readers have noticed and have been fairly quick to pick up on them recently.
Goat-thing newby here is probably just another multi-name retread that's been debated with and busted already on other threads.
Their inherent liberalism basically outs them every time.
Well you could, but then nobody would pay you a bit of attention. Meanwhile ALOT of people are paying attention to ID/creation.
You're failing.
geeee...and lemme guess... another instance of you being civil and not being insulting?
Lazy is not only asserting everything just is because...well just because, by sheer happenstance, via no intelligence, no design, with no purpose...but then you're so utterly lazy you can't even put up with having to put forth any explanations of your position so you just resort to to suing all dissenters into silence.
Errr...THAT'S lazy and most certainly not science!
I can take any creationist tract and do a name search and replace, and it all has just as much validity with the Invisible Pink Unicorn (PBUHH). The only difference is in the number of believers. Christianity at one point had only a few adherents, so was it any less valid then?
A typical concordance will illustrate that yom can have a range of meanings: a period of light as contrasted to night, a 24-hour period, time, a specific point of time, or a year.
A classic, well-respected Hebrew-English lexicon8 (a dictionary) has seven headings and many subheadings for the meaning of yombut it defines the creation days of Genesis 1 as ordinary days under the heading day as defined by evening and morning.
A number and the phrase evening and morning are used with each of the six days of creation (Gen. 1:5, 8, 13, 19, 23, 31).
Outside Genesis 1, yom is used with a number 359 times, and each time it means an ordinary day.9 Why would Genesis 1 be the exception?10
Outside Genesis 1, yom is used with the word evening or morning11 23 times. Evening and morning appear in association, but without yom, 38 times. All 61 times the text refers to an ordinary day. Why would Genesis 1 be the exception?12
In Genesis 1:5, yom occurs in context with the word night. Outside of Genesis 1, night is used with yom 53 times, and each time it means an ordinary day. Why would Genesis 1 be the exception? Even the usage of the word light with yom in this passage determines the meaning as ordinary day.13
The plural of yom, which does not appear in Genesis 1, can be used to communicate a longer time period, such as in those days.14 Adding a number here would be nonsensical. Clearly, in Exodus 20:11, where a number is used with days, it unambiguously refers to six earth-rotation days.
There are words in biblical Hebrew (such as olam or qedem) that are very suitable for communicating long periods of time, or indefinite time, but none of these words are used in Genesis 1.15 Alternatively, the days or years could have been compared with grains of sand if long periods were meant.
http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/nab/could-god-have-created-in-six-days
Agqin- IF we macroevolved, then the bible is LYING to us by telling us that ‘God breathed life into the nostrils of man and woman’ and that God’ looked aroudn but found no suitible mate for Adam’ and that ‘spirit death did NOT occure BEFORE the fall’, and on and on it goes- It takes a powerful lot of twisting to make ‘yom’ mean ‘long ages’ in Genesis, as well as ignorign the articles ‘day and night’, or twistign htem to mean somethign else.
But whatever- just don’t expect us to buy ‘long ages’
I think I’m doing pretty well compared to the slew of insults I’ve seen flying around.
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It was a simple question Granny- God’s own generally aren’t ashamed of publically declaring they are a child of God- not sure why hte anger at hte quesiton on your part? You seem to have quite a bone to pick agaisnt TRUE Christians, while excusing and even defendign the apostates? Makers one obviously wonder which side you’re really from
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Sure *yom* can have other meanings as.....
1) day, time, year
a) day (as opposed to night)
b) day (24 hour period)
1) as defined by evening and morning in Genesis 1
2) as a division of time
a) a working day, a day’s journey
c) days, lifetime (pl.)
d) time, period (general)
e) year
f) temporal references
1) today
2) yesterday
3) tomorrow
But is there something about *And the evening and the morning were the ________ day*, that is so hard to understand?
If it weren’t for that distinction, the whole 6 *day* creation account would not be an issue as *yom* can have other meanings. Clearly God put that in there for every day of creation for a reason and one has to presume that He knew what he was doing when He did it and how it would be interpreted.
Since not every culture would be working on a 24 hour cycle and using that would be meaningless to most people for most of history, distinguishing it as evening and morning, clearly specifies the meaning of a word that could otherwise be vague, and does so in terms that would be impossible to misunderstand no matter what the culture or education level.
Evolution already went through its trial by fire, and with criminal trials against its proponents instead of just civil suits about curriculum. Move it a few hundred years back and they would have just burned Scopes. And you're afraid of a few civil suits.
Girls are unlucky?
Anyone who claims otherwise lacks a basic understanding of science.
Anyone that thinks liberals were somehow given the keys to science is self-absorbed.
BTW...if that's the case Ira, where are all those lawsuits to prevent scientists from studying prayer?
OK, Radix. I want you to go into the text of Genesis, and provide your rationale for the radically shifting lengths of time that you’ve posited, for each and every usage of the word “yom” pertaining to the Creation account, translated as “day” in most Bible translations.
Below are the definitions and contexts that you omitted from your lengthy and unnecessary source code dump from the Strong’s site. You seem to be claiming to have used them, somehow.
Outline of Biblical Usage
1) day, time, year
a) day (as opposed to night)
b) day (24 hour period)
1) as defined by evening and morning in Genesis 1
2) as a division of time
a) a working day, a day’s journey
c) days, lifetime (pl.)
d) time, period (general)
e) year
f) temporal references
1) today
2) yesterday
3) tomorrow
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