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**John Ziegler Promises Not to Sing!** Redondo Beach Event, Sun. Aug 30!
JohnZiegler.com ^ | Aug 27, 2009 | John Ziegler

Posted on 08/27/2009 10:29:58 AM PDT by Joy Angela

Dear John Ziegler Mailing List Members:

Two reasons for this quick note.

First, I will be part of a truly unique event this Sunday evening (Aug 30)at the Redondo Beach Performing Arts Center. It is a first class concert combined with conservative/libertarian speakers. Thankfully I will be speaking and not singing.

If you wish to attend, go to the website for your tickets: Tickets Here

Make sure you use the discount code "John50" for 50% off of the ticket price.

As for the real story of what happened to my show at KGIL, I have written an extensive article for the Orange County Register that I was told would posted on their website and published in this Sunday's paper. However, KGIL has laughably threatened legal action against them if they publish it and amazingly the OC Register has yet to officially realize how ridiculous their threat really is so I don't know if/when that is going to happen. I can assure you however that you will be hearing a lot more about this bizarre situation regardless of where and when.

Thanks so much for your support.

Best
John Ziegler


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From the link! http://www.DontTellMeItCantBeDone.com

Doors open at 5 PM for networking with everyone and Video Town Hall - tell Jane what you think about Healthcare. Drinks and snacks provided by South Bay Tea Party.

- Kevin James will MC our event. (AM 870, KRLA at 9PM)

- John Ziegler will feature HIS film: "How Obama Got Elected"

- Chuck Devore US Senate, John Stammreich State Senate, Ari David US House.

- Ben Gifford - Iraq and Afghan vet. Marine Infantry Captain. - Berkley, Pepperdine Law School - And now looking back home with an eye on Jane Harman's seat in 2012.

1 posted on 08/27/2009 10:29:58 AM PDT by Joy Angela
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To: Joy Angela

Ziegler was here today and gone tomorrow. Why doesn’t he just come out with the truth about why his show went under and not wait for others to reveal it for him?


2 posted on 08/27/2009 10:39:37 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: Joy Angela

Thanks for the post.

I hope John does end up with another station soon.


3 posted on 08/27/2009 10:46:11 AM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: Rational Thought

I still dont know why kgil kicked him off. He say kgil wanted to go all music format, but that turned out to be a lie, so whats the real reason? I truly hope he goes to another station, because he’s as good as Rush imho


4 posted on 08/27/2009 10:51:20 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: 4rcane

I liked Zig. I’m curious about the circumstances as well.


5 posted on 08/27/2009 11:35:53 AM PDT by catbertz
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To: Luke21

Why don’t you act more Christian?


6 posted on 08/27/2009 12:45:18 PM PDT by abigail2
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To: Joy Angela

John Ziegler, defender of Johnny Sutton and cheerleader for the imprisonment of border patrolmen Ramos and Compean.


7 posted on 08/27/2009 4:50:51 PM PDT by Pelham (California, formerly part of the USA)
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To: Pelham

Ziegler did no such thing. You’re believing what you want to believe.


8 posted on 08/27/2009 6:35:22 PM PDT by Fudd Fan ("Vengence is mine" sayeth The Lord. And this one's for MaryJo.)
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To: Fudd Fan

http://www.johnziegler.com/editorials_details.asp?editorial=144

Editorial by John Ziegler
Questions to Ponder About the Ramos and Compean Saga

2/8/2007

Every rational person agrees that the case of former Border Patrol agents Ramos and Compean, who are now serving sentences of eleven and twelve years respectively for actions related to their confronting an illegal alien drug smuggler, is full of gross injustice. After that, it seems almost everything about the case that we think we know is murky and disputed at best. It seems each side has picked and chosen their own set of ‘facts’ and interpretations to suit what they already wanted to believe about everything from our immigration policy to the personal character (or lack thereof) of President Bush.

While I do not claim to know exactly what the exact ‘truth’ is regarding this case (nor do I think anyone else does either) I do think that there are some questions that those who believe that Ramos and Compean are railroaded heroes ought to consider.

For instance:

Why did at least three other Border Patrol agents who witnessed most if not all of the incident testify against them and say that they saw no reason for anyone to feel endangered? (Yes, they received immunity, but does that mean they are lying or had any more incentive to lie about what happened than Ramos and Compean did?).

Why did they fire 15 shots (15??!!) at a guy who never shot at them and against whom the only evidence that he was carrying a gun is the testimony of the former agents who had an obvious incentive to claim that he was?

Why did they pick up the shells casings from their gun shots if they did nothing wrong?

If the Feds were so out to ‘get’ and ‘make an example’ out of Ramos and Compean why did they offer them a one-year plea bargain deal SIX different times?

If the three jurors who have said they felt rushed into the verdict and that they MAY have voted Not Guilty on SOME of the charges if they had more time feel that this was SUCH an injustice, why is it that they have either stopped doing interviews or have stopped being asked by those who want to raise doubts about the verdict?

Why is it that this case is not even considered that big a deal in El Paso where it actually happened?

Why is it that the same mainstream media and Democratic Party which use anything they possibly can to bash President Bush on things had nothing to do with (Katrina, UAE Port Deal, etc.) have been almost totally silent on this issue, even when it could make them look good and tough on the border?

Why is it that some of those fueling the outrage over this case have suddenly decided that Jerome Corsi (of John Kerry “Swift Boat” fame) who they derided then as not being credible is now suddenly Edward R. Morrow?

Why won’t those same people tell you that the “Out to kill Mexicans” claim that it now appears Homeland Security lied about having information to back it up, was never an issue or even presented in the trial?

Why is it that the details of the prison beating of Ramos are so sketchy and is it just a coincidence that this happens just before a devastating report that concluded (independent of the trial) that the two former Border Patrol agents did in fact fail to report the shooting, destroyed evidence and lied to investigators?

I am as outraged as anyone that an illegal alien drug smuggler is benefiting greatly from his actions and that a horrible and chilling message has been sent to our Border Patrol agents, but there has always been something about the reaction to this case that has not made sense to me. Even though I have received a lot of heat for raising these legitimate questions I am doing so only because I wish to get to some understanding of the truth.


9 posted on 08/27/2009 6:41:34 PM PDT by Pelham (California, formerly part of the USA)
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To: Pelham

THANK YOU! You’re proving my point.

Ziegler is on the record here as calling it a “gross injustice” and that a “chilling message has been sent to our Border Patrol agents” with their imprisonment.

Sure, he had questions. A lot of them. So what? This is still a free country and he predicates those questions with the quotes I cite.


10 posted on 08/27/2009 6:43:52 PM PDT by Fudd Fan ("Vengence is mine" sayeth The Lord. And this one's for MaryJo.)
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To: Fudd Fan

Ziegler calls it “a gross injustice” and then proceeds to give credence to all of Sutton’s talking points. There was no injustice if Sutton’s charges are true. Ziegler was simply putting one foot on each side of that fence, and if it were left to him Ramos and Compean would still be in prison. I never heard him do anything to help get them freed.

Moreover I suspect that Ziegler’s doubts had more to do with the fact that his arch nemesis John Kobylt had latched on to the Ramos and Compean issue. His obsession with Kobylt is something to behold:

http://www.therealkfi.com/index.asp

Now there’s little doubt that Kobylt is an opportunistic ass who deserves scorn. But Zielger comes across as lacking maturity and consumed by personal affronts. Maybe if he had demonstrated some concern along those lines he would have some credibility- but it was John Ziegler who decided to discuss the sex life of one of his girlfriends over the air. What kind of a man does that?


11 posted on 08/27/2009 7:15:44 PM PDT by Pelham (California, formerly part of the USA)
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To: Pelham

We seem to differ on the interpretation. That’s ok. My mind is open.


12 posted on 08/28/2009 9:06:50 AM PDT by Fudd Fan ("Vengence is mine" sayeth The Lord. And this one's for MaryJo.)
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To: Rational Thought
I hope John does end up with another station soon.

I agree -- Ziegler is THE BEST at speaking his mind and he certainly takes the blows for it!

There is something so charming about someone who has this type of spunk! You just know he's going be ON TOP in the end!

Truly, John Ziegler is like a Heavy Weight Boxing Champion! I love it when he delivers his RIGHT HOOK!

13 posted on 08/28/2009 10:33:47 AM PDT by Joy Angela
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To: Luke21

The station that carried him as well as Glenn Beck and Fred Thompson dropped their talk format in favor of retro music. Why does a cloud always follow Ziegler?


14 posted on 08/28/2009 4:23:22 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: Joy Angela; Luke21; Rational Thought; 4rcane; catbertz; abigail2; Pelham; Fudd Fan
I wasn't familiar with him. I've never heard his radio show. However, I've now watched the video of his arrest and read a little about him. He seems like a first class jerk.
15 posted on 08/28/2009 4:35:03 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: oneamericanvoice

Maybe it’s a cloud of his own making.


16 posted on 08/28/2009 4:43:18 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

He can be obnoxious at times but he likes Sarah Palin. A point we have in common.


17 posted on 08/28/2009 7:25:00 PM PDT by Fudd Fan ("Vengence is mine" sayeth The Lord. And this one's for MaryJo.)
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To: EveningStar

I disagree. John Ziegler is great at exposing the hypocrisy of the MSM.


18 posted on 08/29/2009 6:43:00 AM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: Fudd Fan
he likes Sarah Palin


19 posted on 08/29/2009 9:25:08 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Rational Thought
John Ziegler is great at exposing the hypocrisy of the MSM.

Most talk show hosts on the right that I've listened to expose the hypocrisy of the MSM.

20 posted on 08/29/2009 9:27:55 AM PDT by EveningStar
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