Lutherans adopt more open view on homosexuality (Godless ELCA)

One News Now ^ | August 21, 2009 | Staff

[IbJensen]

MINNEAPOLIS, MN - Leaders of the country's largest Lutheran denomination have moved toward a more welcoming view of homosexuality.

Delegates of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, meeting in Minneapolis, approved a "social statement on human sexuality" that acknowledges differing views on homosexuality. It says the ELCA is strong enough to accommodate such differences.

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Wednesday's vote was a prelude to votes scheduled Friday on whether to let people in same-sex relationships serve as Lutheran ministers.

[massmike]

Gay Priests and Gay Marriage
What the one issue has to do with the other.

http://www.nationalreview.com/03june02/kurtz060302.asp

[kittymyrib]

The ELCA is not Lutheran. Using Jesus’s requirement, “If you continue in My word, then you are truly My followers (John 8:31),” they are not Christian. A church body that changes the teachings of the Bible is not a Christian church and should be avoided as toxic to one’s soul.

[IbJensen]

Bravo!

[Maelstorm]

I agree. Though I prefer the word immoral.

[Mr. Lucky]

Ditto.

[IbJensen]

There's nothing of substance in the Novus Ordo Mass. It has become a club where one goes to visit and talk loud before the 'service' is to begin.

The Tridentine Mass (pre-Vatican II) was and STILL IS a very quiet and dignified worship of God.

Mary isn't worshiped, rather she is venerated as a person of extreme worth who happened to give birth to our Savior.

Denigrating Catholicism and Catholics probably isn't a good idea because the 'faith' is truly over 2,000 years old and the first head of the Church was truly St. Peter. Only until the past 50 years has the Church turned off the light that served as a beacon, not only to practicing Catholics, but all Christians.

[Mr. Lucky]

Not the most ecumenical comment ever posted.

[fwdude]

Another faction of Christians pealing further off into apostasy because they haven't the foggiest idea about the meaning of the word of G_d.

Yeah, I wonder what they do with the Scriptures that roundly, in no uncertain terms, condemn homosexuality, as well as other sexual sins, as conduct that will damn a soul to hell. Do they just pretend they aren't there? Do they take scissors to their Bibles? What do they make of Paul's writings, which make up a bulk of the New Testament? Or do they twist and contort these passages out of all logic and common meaning to actually condone sodomy?

[fwdude]

Not the most ecumenical comment ever posted.

Ecumenism is a Christianity killer. Protestantism has, until very recently, roundly condemned and disassociated from the Roman church for eons and has still been blessed with God's approval and extraordinary visitations and moves of God's Spirit. This is a healthy "protest."

[Mr. Lucky]

Except that the Lutheran Church isn't Protestant. It is the Church Catholic without the 16th Century abuses.

[Gay State Conservative]

I agree. Though I prefer the word immoral.

By my definition of the two words the difference is that an "amoral" person never,for a minute,feels the slightest amount of shame or remorse for immoral things that he/she does whereas an "immoral" person just might...somewhere down the road.How often to you hear anything that even remotely resembles shame,embarrassment or remorse from a practicing homosexual?

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

For months afterwards I got phone calls and letters urging me to reconsider and professing puzzlement as to why this was so divisive an issue.

Genesis?

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

Genesis...

In the beginning...

[Charles Henrickson]

Could use a Lutheran ping.

[shankbear]

Welcome to Bendover Acres......

[MrB]

From wiki: Eisegesis (from the Greek root εις, meaning into, in, among) is the process of misinterpreting a text in such a way that it introduces one's own ideas, reading into the text. This is best understood when contrasted with exegesis. While exegesis draws out the meaning from the text, eisegesis occurs when a reader reads his/her interpretation into the text. As a result, exegesis tends to be objective when employed effectively while eisegesis is regarded as highly subjective. An individual who practices eisegesis is known as an eisegete, as someone who practices exegesis is known as an exegete. The term eisegete is often used in a mildly derogatory fashion.

[lightman]

Lutheran (EL C S*A) Ping!

* as of August 19, AD 2009, a liberal protestant SECT, not part of the holy, catholic and apostolic CHURCH.

[sr4402]

....same thing with Presbyterian Church USA....is it any wonder that it has been in decline for years?

Why do you think the Presbyterian Church PCA was formed? It was because the USA body was giving money to Terrorists and for Abortions.

We have a completely pro-life plank and say NO to Adultery. The Westminster Confession and documents are celebrated and good doctrines (especially the Five Points of Calvin) are regularly discussed.

All are welcome for Worship, come and join us.

[Puppage]

MINNEAPOLIS, MN - Leaders of the country's largest Lutheran denomination have moved toward a more welcoming view of homosexuality.

Well, that pretty much does it for me. I guess my wife gets her wish for me to convert to Catholicism.

[wagglebee]

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