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The Gloves are Off: Planned Parenthood President Slams U.S. Bishops on Abortion, Healthcare
LifeSiteNews ^ | 8/19/09 | John Jalsevac

Posted on 08/19/2009 4:02:40 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: wagglebee
"Since when does universal health care mean denying comprehensive reproductive health care supported by the majority of Americans?"

Start with a lie and you've lost me.

21 posted on 08/19/2009 4:50:05 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: wagglebee

The Catholics should shut down this reform even if it only includes contraception coverage paid for by the taxpayer.


22 posted on 08/19/2009 4:55:36 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: ansel12
I wonder if Obama can risk losing the Catholic vote?

Nope, because moderate Protestants tend to vote the same way as the CINOs.

Last year Zero also got a lot of votes from Blacks and young people who generally wouldn't have voted. The WILL NOT vote in the next election if Zero fails to advance socialism like he promised.

23 posted on 08/19/2009 5:04:20 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Well Obama of course didn’t win the Protestant vote getting only 45% of their vote, but Obama did win 54% of the Catholic vote.

The question is, will Obama risk losing the support of Catholics?


24 posted on 08/19/2009 5:09:00 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: ansel12

The numbers I’ve seen indicate that the Catholic vote and white Protestant vote seem to move in the same direction (with the Protestants usually about 8 to 10 points more in favor of the GOP). I also think it’s pretty safe to say that the era of it mattering if the candidate is Catholic has long since passed (i.e. I don’t think any sizable number of non-Catholics would refuse to vote for a Catholic and John Kerry showed that Catholics are not willing to vote for someone just because they are Catholic).

I don’t think Zero is actually bright enough to realize how many people he is alienating.

If things continue like they are now, the ‘Rats will lose Congress next year. When that happens, look for Hillary to resign by the end of 2010 (depending on how badly Zero does she may leave sooner) and challenge Zero for the nomination.


25 posted on 08/19/2009 5:20:25 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Murder Inc. aka planned parenthood is going after those of us who are pro life.


26 posted on 08/19/2009 5:25:59 PM PDT by jesseam (Been there and done that!)
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To: wagglebee

The white protestant vote is always the same old GOP vote,so I don’t know what direction they could be moving in.

The Catholic vote has gone republican 5 out of the last 19 elections and 4 of those times have been in the last 13 elections so that might be a trend.

You are right about Kerry, Gore got the Catholic vote but when it came to reelecting a war time president the Catholics gave Bush 52% of their vote.

I do think though that Obama has to fear losing a group that in recent years has become a swing vote that might abandon him in 1210, that gives Catholic Bishops a lot of power.


27 posted on 08/19/2009 5:31:41 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: wagglebee
"Since when does universal health care mean denying comprehensive reproductive health care supported by the majority of Americans?"

Oh, since approximately 3000 BC to 1974 AD.... a mere 4,974 years.

28 posted on 08/19/2009 6:45:03 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("A cultural problem cannot be solved with a political solution." -- Selwyn Duke)
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment

Most Leftwingtards are too stupid to resist sterilization. Just line them up and break out the Burdizzos


29 posted on 08/19/2009 6:55:31 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: wagglebee
Does this mean that Doctors will now forswear the Hippocratic Oath, in favor of an oath of fealty to the Leader?
http://www.members.tripod.com/nktiuro/hippocra.htm
30 posted on 08/20/2009 6:20:09 AM PDT by jmcenanly
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To: wagglebee

clearly the ingestion of organic estrogen is affecting her brain.


31 posted on 08/20/2009 7:40:03 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (this slope is getting slippereeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...)
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To: Albion Wilde

Seems like Pharaoh could have saved himself a lot of trouble with Moses and his lot if he’d only used the phrase “comprehensive reproductive health care” instead of “kill all male Hebrews.” Judging by modern sentiments, Hebrew women would have been rushing to throw their newborns in the Nile in that case.


32 posted on 08/20/2009 7:41:36 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Albion Wilde

How do you say “comprehensive reproductive health care” in ancient Egyptian?


33 posted on 08/20/2009 7:42:05 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: mvpel
Pharaoh could have saved himself a lot of trouble with Moses and his lot if he’d only used the phrase “comprehensive reproductive health care” instead of “kill all male Hebrews.”

This ignorant, arrogant evil-doer needs to start calling it what it is: "comprehensive reductive death indifference".

34 posted on 08/20/2009 8:33:15 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("A cultural problem cannot be solved with a political solution." -- Selwyn Duke)
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To: ansel12

I wonder if Obama can risk losing the Catholic vote?...

...he doesn’t have to worry, the 53% Catholics who voted for him are hard core ideologues who would buck the church in a second in order to pursue left wing visions...their premise is that it’s uninformed to be single issue voters...


35 posted on 08/20/2009 8:50:18 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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Dear Ms. Richards,

What does murdering an unborn child have to do with women's healthcare?

Sincerely,

Antoninus
36 posted on 08/20/2009 8:52:34 AM PDT by Antoninus (Sarah Palin will soon have more fans on Facebook than most major newspapers have readers.)
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To: IrishBrigade

I don’t believe that, I think that if Americans that are Catholic start pushing for the church in America to become more conservative that it will move enough moderate Catholics so that the Catholic vote could be brought closer to the Protestant vote.

Protestants Hispanics are about 50/50 republican having voted 56% for Bush in 2004 and 52% Obama in 2008, Catholic Hispanics voted 79% for Obama, and 79% for Kerry. American Catholics can look into those two camps and find a pathway to converting their fellow Catholics to voting against the Gay/abortion party that they are currently supporting.

The main thing that they need to do is start looking behind the Catholic curtain and figure out why nothing changes.


37 posted on 08/20/2009 9:10:25 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: netmilsmom

The Pope is up to it, but the US Catholic Bishops aren’t, in my opinion. They sure did there level best to screw up Providence Seattle. In the end, the abandoned the market. They moved their flagship to Everett. Top ten heart hospital in the US.


38 posted on 08/20/2009 9:14:57 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: Ronin

Let Obama nationalize them. Then the Church can get back to having volunteers man local clinics as true charity operations with no bowing down to government death panels.


39 posted on 08/20/2009 9:56:59 AM PDT by victim soul
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To: wagglebee

You wrote: “I also think it’s pretty safe to say that the era of it mattering if the candidate is Catholic has long since passed (i.e. I don’t think any sizable number of non-Catholics would refuse to vote for a Catholic and John Kerry showed that Catholics are not willing to vote for someone just because they are Catholic).”

There would certainly be a problem if the Presidential candidate was a practicing Catholic... Look what they did to Bush for practicing his Faith!!

Everyone knew that John Kerry was only a self-identified Catholic ... not a practicing Catholic.


40 posted on 08/20/2009 10:02:36 AM PDT by victim soul
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