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(MI) Yes, Some Were Bussed In For Jackson Health Care Rally Last Week
Jackson Citizen Patriot / MLive ^ | 08/19/09 | Chris Gautz

Posted on 08/19/2009 5:53:00 AM PDT by Kieri

Chris Gautz column: Yes, some were bused in for health-care rally in Jackson last week by Chris Gautz | Jackson Citizen Patriot Tuesday August 18, 2009, 11:46 PM CHRIS GAUTZ

Several readers have criticized the Citizen Patriot's coverage of last week's health care rally outside U.S. Rep. Mark Schauer's office, where hundreds came out — both to support and oppose — President Barack Obama's reform plan.

The chief criticism was that we failed to mention that some supporters were bused in from around the state.

It is true, and it wasn't included in the original story, but not because we were trying to slant coverage. The simple truth is it was a difficult fact to nail down.

You're reading this story today because Tuesday I was able to confirm with the Service Employees International Union that it rented vans and encouraged people to carpool to the event. About 100 SEIU members attended, from as far away as Muskegon and Detroit, said Zac Altefogt, a spokesman for SEIU Healthcare Michigan.

While covering the rally last Thursday, myself and another reporter were told by several opponents of the reform plan that supporters were bused in. But we did not see the buses that night and were unable to pose the question to the supporters' organizer before our deadline.

We left it out of the Friday story because we cannot print speculation as fact.

On Friday, we followed up with Organizing for America, which put out the call for supporters to attend the event. OFA state director Aletheia Henry assured us that her group had not bused people to the rally.

We wrote a short follow-up Saturday and thought it was resolved.

Then this week, some readers e-mailed us photos of supporters standing in front of a bus from Trinity Transportation parked several blocks away near Family Video, 1111 W. Ganson St.

My colleague followed up with Henry. We told her we understood OFA hadn't chartered the buses, but we wondered if she knew who had. She refused to answer the question and then hung up the phone.

Seems like an overreaction to a news organization simply looking for a straight answer.

I give credit to SEIU for not being ashamed to let the community know they used mass transit to get their members to the rally.

As Altefogt pointed out to me, health care is not just a Jackson issue. His union has members statewide, and they wanted to participate.

In the end, it doesn't matter if participants walked, drove or took a bus. Everyone has the right to come to a rally and express his or her views.

Earlier this month, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said some of the anger demonstrated at congressional health-care town hall meetings was manufactured by groups who oppose reform. He went on to say he thought Republican operatives were attending these meetings to give the appearance of widespread outrage.

So I can understand why local Republicans were upset that we "left out" any mention of Democrats busing people here to give the appearance of widespread acceptance of health reforms.

But in such a politically charged debate, we have to be careful about printing anything we cannot confirm.

I'll always opt for being right, rather than being first.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: 111th; agenda; astroturf; democrats; healthcare; liberalfascism; obamacare; schauer; seiu; townhalls; unions
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I was one of those who talked about Obaminations being bussed in on their reply board. I'm still cooling my temper before I craft a response to this.
1 posted on 08/19/2009 5:53:00 AM PDT by Kieri
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To: Kieri

bookmark.


2 posted on 08/19/2009 5:54:57 AM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: IrishCatholic

The rats are going to force a revolution in AmeriKa. They want to force it then bring it on!

We need to reclaim our country and or Government. This is the USA not Obama and Nancy’s USSA

We need to mobilize the the phones, the streets, the blogs. Let’s give the a bigger taste of their grassroots organizing the they gave us in 2008.

The people are talking quietly and are waiting for a leader to step forward to lead our movement.

Let’s crush the RATS with their own game..


3 posted on 08/19/2009 5:56:41 AM PDT by ncfool ( Obama's AmeriKa is about helping himself to your money!)
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To: Kieri

acorn and unions supported by your tax dollars working against you


4 posted on 08/19/2009 5:57:00 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: Kieri
If Robert Gibbs says is it about those opposed, it gets printed as fact. If eye witnesses say it about union thugs, it has to get checked out before print. Got it.
5 posted on 08/19/2009 5:57:53 AM PDT by jennyjenny ( "The Harpoon")
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To: Kieri

My response to this “article” is:

Gag me with a spoon.


6 posted on 08/19/2009 5:59:29 AM PDT by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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To: Kieri

So they can’t print “speculation.” But they can print Robert Gibbs.......uh........well......speculation.


7 posted on 08/19/2009 6:00:26 AM PDT by JoeDetweiler
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To: dalebert

The $4 billion of OUR HARD EARNED MONEY given to them from the stimulus at work here. With that type of money, they could bus in people from Mars.


8 posted on 08/19/2009 6:00:27 AM PDT by abishai
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To: Kieri

Yet, they will print unsubstantiated allegations that opponents are waving nazi symbols or are centrally controlled “astroturfers.”


9 posted on 08/19/2009 6:01:59 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (This tagline excerpted. To read more, click on MyOverratedBlog.com)
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Union Thug Alert.
10 posted on 08/19/2009 6:02:00 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (30-year smoker, E-Cigs helped me quit, and O wants me back smoking again?)
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To: JoeDetweiler

Oooh, good catch!


11 posted on 08/19/2009 6:02:34 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (This tagline excerpted. To read more, click on MyOverratedBlog.com)
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To: Kieri

I knew it from the beginning. They were openly admitting to have come from both Muskegon and Detroit. Both cities are well outside the 7th district. They were making all kinds of noise, chanting and yelling, suddenly it stopped all at once because Reform Now (ACORN) and Organizing for America (Barackobama.com) all left at the same time.

http://s736.photobucket.com/albums/xx2/Snappler_2009/Jackson%20Mi%20protest/?albumview=grid


12 posted on 08/19/2009 6:03:25 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Kieri

I don’t know but maybe reporting the allegation about bussed in UHC supporters at the WY TH would have smoked out the facts a little quicker. This writer sounds pretty weak kneed to me??


13 posted on 08/19/2009 6:04:19 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: iopscusa

The CitPat endorsed Schauer. Now they’re having to deal with egg on their faces. I think it’s less about politics and more about looking like fools now that they see which way the wind is blowing.

The second protest is tomorrow night. I’ll be there. I have a feeling a LOT more conservatives will, too.


14 posted on 08/19/2009 6:07:09 AM PDT by Kieri (The Conservatrarian)
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To: jennyjenny; Kieri
Big surprise. Sleeze Dems and media can make stuff up about conservatives, print, put on air, and never recant when proven wrong. but stories about Dem tactics have to be verified first! Nice that that this article is out there but deck still stacked big time.
15 posted on 08/19/2009 6:08:33 AM PDT by GILTN1stborn
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To: Kieri
I'll always opt for being right, rather than being first.

He/she was sure in a big hurry to report that we were outnumbered. Hell, my mother says she read the first report on Mlive at around 4:20 PM, that's before our protest was even due to start.
16 posted on 08/19/2009 6:08:42 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: iopscusa

Opopps confused Jackson,MI with Jackson,WY.


17 posted on 08/19/2009 6:09:17 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Kieri

I love how they lie without even thinking about it.


18 posted on 08/19/2009 6:10:11 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Kieri
...While covering the rally last Thursday, myself and another reporter were told by several opponents of the reform plan

Why are so many "journalists" grammatically challenged?

19 posted on 08/19/2009 6:11:52 AM PDT by PDMiller
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To: ncfool

I share your sentiment, but make sure you work through your state legislatures.

A bunch of bubbas in a “compound” or who attack a fedgov agent/building/entity will be easily and justifiably “put down” by overwhelming federal force.

However, a state that refuses to enforce federal law or allow them to be enforced can be legitimately defended by the state’s militia.


20 posted on 08/19/2009 6:12:25 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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