Obama's parents didn't live at newspaper birth address

WorldNetDaily ^ | August 18, 2009 | Jerome R. Corsi

[RobinMasters]

Additional documents uncovered by WND support a previous report that President Obama's parents did not live together as husband and wife at the Honolulu address listed in birth announcements in two local newspapers.

Both newspapers, the Honolulu Advertiser and the Honolulu Star-Bulletin, carried the announcement that Barack Obama Jr. was born Aug. 4, 1961, to Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, residing at 6085 Kalanianaole Highway in Honolulu, Hawaii.

Additional research has established that the grandparents, Madelyn and Stanley Dunham, lived at 6085 Kalanianaole Highway, not Barack Obama Sr. and Ann Dunham.

Moreover, Mr. and Mrs. Obama apparently did not live together after their marriage, with Dunham evidently remaining in the rented 6085 Kalanianaole Highway house.

Barack Obama Sr. lived alone at an 11th Avenue address in Honolulu, closer to the university. Dunham left Hawaii for Seattle in August 1961, the month of Barack Obama Jr.'s birth, to study at the University of Washington.

WND can find no listing in the Polk directories to document Dunham and Barack Obama Sr. ever living at the same address.

[RummyChick]

Polk has a free trial. Who wants to be the first to sign up and do a little digging on their free trial?

http://www.citydirectory.com/Content/Marketing/ProductLookup.aspx?bas_vendor=99990&pGeo=hawaii#

[kabumpo]

Things like that happen. I know a man who had a fling with a woman from South America. Later, she called him up from her country and told him she had just had a baby and it was his and all she wanted was for him to acknowledge the child as his and for him to put his name of the B.C. He did, for stupid reasons (she was a minor celeb in her country) and low and behold, the child has my friend’s last name AND a US passport. Now, it’s obvious to everyone that the child isn’t his, and the mother also had a fling with a person of a different race from her & my friend and the child looks like that racial group. Nevertheless, my friend has supported the now adult offspring for years and refees to him as “my son.” Everyone else knows that the mother scammed him.

[kabumpo]

The way Bill CLinton’s mother did.

[Terry Mross]

So, in 1961 doctors said it was okay for a pregnant woman who’s do at any moment to travel across the ocean to Washington. Or she traveled when he was fresh out of the womb. I don’t think so. Times were different back then.

[Art in Idaho]

Suppose a fund of $1 million was offered to a whistle blower. What would be the maximum sentence they would risk to leak actual information from the INS and/or the Passport office? On the other hand perhaps no dollar reward is high enough to risk an ‘accidental’ death!?!

Sure it's worth the risk. If a true whistleblower came out, he/she would be 'going public' and be an instant international celebrity known to the world. If the person had an 'accident', it would immediately be suspect and the O camp would have to cover it up. The coverup got Nixon. .

[kellynla]

“That's WND for you. If their writing was at the average level of posts on FR, it would be an improvement.”

Well at least wnd.com is actually DOING some investigative reporting...

Can you name any other sources who are?

The NYT, LAT, NEWSWEEK, TIME...anyone?

Waiting...

Maybe you've been spending too much time over at the DU....
“when you can't rebut the message...damn the messenger.”

[justiceseeker93]

I'm quite sure that the race of a what would be called a “black” or “African American” parent today would have been called “Negro” on an official document in 1961. “Negro” was the standard term used by news media and respectable public speakers at the time, regardless of race. It didn't begin to change to “black” until the late 1960s or perhaps early 1970s.

[justiceseeker93]

I am not sure she would have been able to fly all over the country during this period because of the price.

Bear in mind that Barack Sr.'s family was not poor. They were influential in Kenyan politics, and apparently were able to support him in college. Not very many foreign students studied in the US in that era, especially not very many Africans. In addition, there may have been youth discount fares available in some situations of which Ann could have taken advantage.

[DontTreadOnMe2009]

“Woah, now, this doesn’t jibe at all with the research, with sources, done right here on FR, and elsewhere. I’m recalling FReeper Chief Engineer was one of the main researchers (or a SN with “engineer in it, sorry if it’s not you, CE). The house was for sale and vacant, and then the Lefforges bought it, before Obama was reportedly born. There was even speculation that Madelyn Dunham was aware of the vacancy through her position in the mortgage department at the bank, and that she must have thought it a “safe” address to use for the announcement that she initiated herself.”

Geez, this is easy to check through the mortgage records.

Don’t we have anyone at all on our side for such a simple tack?

How about a Freepathon to raise the money???????

[UCANSEE2]

Was the person who handed those BC’s to you a member of the family?

[RegulatorCountry]

Excellent suggestion. When will you start?

Tax records have already been checked by Chief Engineer. She’s ill with cancer and unable to continue.

[MHGinTN]

I’m amazed at how little focus has been given to Toots and her possible gaming of the systems of birth registry, social services manipulation, and possible outright ID fraud. There is a reason why she and Stanley senior left good digs and jobs in Washington State to take a teller’s position in Hawaii. And has anyone really dug into her (Toot’s) seeming meteoric rise in banking in Hawaii? How about how Stanley Ann got hooked up with the Ford Foundation micro-loans scams? One way scammers remain undetected is by keeping a low profile, like not buying a house but renting their whole life. Did Toots know how to game the systems of our capitalist society, raking off cream from many sources and funding Barry’s expensive educational forays? Did she teach Barry any of these fraudulent methods via experience? ... So many questions are going unasked!

[MHGinTN]

Tax records/assessments from 1961 would tell us if the little dwelling out back was there in 1961. Has anyone verified that yet?

[DJ MacWoW]

Your question is silly and facetious. I got the documents from the state.

[Plutarch]

Well at least wnd.com is actually DOING some investigative reporting...

I applaud WND for its investigative reporting, I lament its deficiencies in journalistic professionalism.

Rush Limbaugh is effective not only because of what he says, but so too because of professional excellence in the craft of being a talk show host.

WND needs a good editor, as its High School newspaper journalistic standards diminish the credibility of its groundbreaking investigative reporting.

[MHGinTN]

Meant to ping you ...

[UCANSEE2]

Your question is silly and facetious.

Sorry if it came out sounding that way.

I was only trying to point out that there are other people, who are not relatives, who can, or have seen, any one person's Birth Certificate.

[DontTreadOnMe2009]

“Have you seen the cottage??? I highly doubt the Dunhams were staying in that..although it is possible.
“

Can you post a photo of it???

[DJ MacWoW]

Your original statement: If there is, I don't know of anyone who has seen it, except for the Governor of Hawaii who only claims that she knows it was locked away.

Governor Lingle did not see nor lock away the BC. Only Okuba and Fukino saw it. WND stated that it was sealed by Lingle and that wasn't true. WND is not always a reliable source. See post 131.

When debating this issue with lefty trolls, I never use WND as a source.

[DJ MacWoW]

Btw, I’ve been “had” using WND so I don’t. We need unimpeachable sources.