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Attorney: FBI trained NJ blogger to incite others: Informant on Radical Right [Hal Turner]
ap ^ | KATIE NELSON

Posted on 08/18/2009 1:36:41 PM PDT by Casaubon

"His job was basically to publish information which would cause other parties to act in a manner which would lead to their arrest," Orozco said.

Prosecutors have acknowledged that Turner was an informant who spied on radical right-wing organizations

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: fbi; halturner; newjersey; splc
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To: Jim Robinson
Hal Turner. He was banned years ago.

Now that's just too funny.

41 posted on 08/18/2009 2:45:59 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Democrat - The Party of Bull Connor, slavery, Jim Crow laws, Obama and Suzanne Kosmas)
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To: RummyChick

That’s what I suspect. Also, this admin is out to get us.

Realistically speaking, I’m sure there are extreme nutcases out there who can be classified, loosely speaking, as “right wing.” That is, they’re extremists but not statists, not followers of Marx or Alinsky, and instead are probably either way-out libertarians or followers of some cultist such as that Mormon polygamist flake.

They’re hardly typical, but on the other hand, I don’t think they’re really much of a threat. The assassins we have had have generally been either leftists - such as Lee Harvey Oswald, Russian and Cuban pawn - or Muslims - such as Sirhan Sirhan. Still, I guess it doesn’t hurt to keep an eye on the more bizarre groups of either right or left, under any administration. In practice, however, the leftist groups always get a break.

I think Obama and the gang have probably been trying to increase the agent provacateur activity in hopes that some incident will actually occur - or that one created by them can plausibly be attributed to us (or conservatives in general, at least).


42 posted on 08/18/2009 2:47:40 PM PDT by livius
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To: suthener
It is my sincere belief that this guy was a plant by law enforcement to see if anyone would bite on what he said.

Scary story, and I think you're right. Whenever I see anybody here say, "well, you know what I mean..." I think it's probably an attempt to get a few actionable words, if nothing else.

43 posted on 08/18/2009 2:49:49 PM PDT by livius
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To: suthener

Wow! Did anybody else know him personally?


44 posted on 08/18/2009 2:50:14 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: cripplecreek; jimrob

He tried posting under Hal Turner many times during the clinton years. I think Jim banned him for His racist postings.


45 posted on 08/18/2009 2:55:34 PM PDT by jokar (The Church age is the only time we will be able to Glorify God, http://www.gbible.org)
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To: livius

The funny thing is, the most convincing argument against him being a plant was that he was too obvious and stood out too much. Except for the clothes, though, he looked like a stereotypical young FBI agent.


46 posted on 08/18/2009 2:57:20 PM PDT by suthener
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To: Casaubon
This is not an unusual tactic. It has long been understood that most 'groups' have been compromised by gov't shills.

After all, this government does not consider us to be the 'boss' of them, quite the contrary.

We are the herd to be managed in their eyes.

47 posted on 08/18/2009 2:59:02 PM PDT by JOAT
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To: pissant; Lazamataz
Hal is missing a few cards from the deck.
Why would they pick such a half wit?

And the few he had left were stacked erratically.

He was banned years ago

48 posted on 08/18/2009 3:02:13 PM PDT by jokar (The Church age is the only time we will be able to Glorify God, http://www.gbible.org)
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To: Casaubon

Bush’s Fault. It happened during his watch. And “Robert Swan Mueller III”. UFB! NO MORE RATS OR RINOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


49 posted on 08/18/2009 3:04:10 PM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: Casaubon
"His job was basically to publish information which would cause other parties to act in a manner which would lead to their arrest," Orozco said.

And other parties to act in a manner so that DHS could classify them to be terrorists, I presume.

Someone in the FBI needs to burn for this one. Instead, they'll probably get promoted like Lon Horiuchi.

50 posted on 08/18/2009 3:10:00 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: BuckeyeTexan
ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME?

I've encountered these guys before. What happens is the guy gets into a little trouble, which can be "made to go away" if he renders some valuable assistance. The people he entraps are often given similar deals.

The Ruby Ridge incident with Randy Weaver started out that way. Weaver was entrapped into gunsmithing a shotgun that was a little under the legal limit. He was then given a choice: go to jail, or infiltrate and inform on the Aryan Nations.

51 posted on 08/18/2009 3:14:08 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: Brookhaven
No, I’m not saying Bush was behind this. But it should be clear that big government can’t be trusted.

It's how police operate at all levels. When promotion is governed by the number and quality of your arrests, lots of people will do what they need to do to get ahead.

52 posted on 08/18/2009 3:16:09 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

lol it was common knowledge. Hey remember when this lulzcow posted the pic of some little kid bleeding on his site and said it was a picture of a young caller that he (Hal) had sent his “white power army” to go beat up or something...and then some internets people researched the pic and found it was “pic unrelated” that was really a pic of some little kid that had been doing backyard wrestling with his buddy.

lol Hal.


53 posted on 08/18/2009 3:16:46 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace
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To: Casaubon
"Prosecutors have acknowledged that Turner was an informant who spied on radical right-wing organizations..."

Turner has more to worry about than prosecution. Nobody likes a rat!

54 posted on 08/18/2009 3:17:07 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: DJ MacWoW

I would really hope that people that work for the FBI, CIA, etc.. post on FR because they are really freepers and not just doing their job (I bet there are more freepers than DUs at the FBI).

It is sad to learn that the FBI dragged FR’s Name through the mud by hiring this plant to post on FR.

Glad he was banned.


55 posted on 08/18/2009 3:28:45 PM PDT by dila813
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To: dila813

I would think there are government types that are Freepers.....or have become Freepers after reading enough here through the years. DUers are filthy mouthed, emotional nuts.


56 posted on 08/18/2009 3:37:48 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Casaubon

Agent Provocateurs, NJ. I searched Google maps, but no luck. Is that anywhere near Hoboken? Or maybe Succasunna?

I tell you, the older I get, the stranger people seem.


57 posted on 08/18/2009 3:39:52 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: Jim Robinson

Have you eve been asked to cooperate with LEO? Or asked for information regarding a freeper (even a banned freeper)?


58 posted on 08/18/2009 4:05:02 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I think it means just keeping in mind that we are doing God’s revolution; God’s way in the Sprit of 76 and 33 A.D., not 1789, or 1918 (not violent).


59 posted on 08/18/2009 4:52:06 PM PDT by JSDude1 (www.wethepeopleindiana.org (Tea Party Member-Proud), www.travishankins.com (R- IN 09 2010!))
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To: RummyChick

No $h!t. The FBI needs to be called on this.


60 posted on 08/18/2009 4:57:37 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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