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Adult charges for teens in Valparaiso bus assaults (Sexual terror on school bus)
AP Via WSBT ^ | 8-17-09

Posted on 08/18/2009 12:51:51 PM PDT by past_present

Authorities say five teen girls were repeatedly groped and threatened on a Portage school bus for months before the two 17-year-old boys and one 16-year-old boy were arrested in February.

A Porter County judge on Thursday ruled the repetitive pattern of behavior by the boys showed that they were beyond rehabilitation in the juvenile justice system. Juvenile Magistrate Edward Nemeth also wrote that there was a need to protect students and deter similar actions

(Excerpt) Read more at wsbt.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chicago; crime; moralabsolutes; portercounty; valparaiso
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To: Lee'sGhost
What quote? What movie?

"Nuke it from orbit! It's the only way to be sure."

Aliens (1986)

41 posted on 08/18/2009 1:29:22 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century. I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: AuntB

“...but not for long, they either shaped up or were gone instead of dragging us all down to the lowest common denominator.”

Right. Same when I was a kid. But not anymore. Somehow, some way, the State constitution got re-worked so that now disruptive little criminals have more of a right to be in the classroom than my kids have a right to be in a classroom without disruptive little criminals. Because a free and appropriate public education is now both an entitlement and also a requirement.

As a side note, this is what Obama wants to do for health are: make it an entitlement and also a requirement.


42 posted on 08/18/2009 1:33:28 PM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: past_present

Where were their fellow students, as in the male type?

Not too long ago, we settled a similar problem just one time. That’s all it took.


43 posted on 08/18/2009 1:36:02 PM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: past_present

Can you identify these? Where are they? Name names.

South Central LA?

Certainly not Irvine.

Just wondering...


44 posted on 08/18/2009 1:49:20 PM PDT by DigitalVideoDude (It's amazing what you can accomplish when you don't care who gets the credit. -Ronald Reagan)
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To: bayouranger

This was an academy for the gifted so the only males were of the piano and violin-playing, sweater-wearing variety. The two little scholars that tried to rape my nieces were bussed in from downtown. I doubt the other boys in that school could have fought their way out of a paper bag, but maybe they could have challenged the thugs to a spelling bee?


45 posted on 08/18/2009 1:49:30 PM PDT by past_present
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To: DigitalVideoDude

Long Beach, ca


46 posted on 08/18/2009 1:50:10 PM PDT by past_present
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To: past_present

May I ask what classes were those criminals enrolled in?

What gift(s) did they possess?

Was this public transit?


47 posted on 08/18/2009 1:52:30 PM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: bayouranger
Where were their fellow students, as in the male type?

Probably either snickering or trying to avoid trouble themselves. As young girls in the late '70's, early '80's, at my school, on the schoolbus, and around the neighborhood, we witnessed and encountered this type of behavior from time to time. And, yes, I'm talking about some of the same things you're reading in this story. Other boys did nothing to help. The nicer boys were just as afraid. I put up for myself, even though I was much smaller. But, I would hope my own sons would speak up for a girl in that situation.

48 posted on 08/18/2009 2:05:23 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: SJSAMPLE

He’ll go from tight end to wide receiver.


49 posted on 08/18/2009 2:06:54 PM PDT by stbdside
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To: past_present

What would have happened to those girls if they fought back, I wonder? They probably would have been suspended or expelled for defending themselves. Then they complained to the school and got nowhere.

Didn’t Indiana recently pass that law that makes it very hard to charge school officials if they “act in good faith.” That’s a great law for them to hide behind. They’ll just say, “first time we heard about it, heh heh heh.”


50 posted on 08/18/2009 2:08:27 PM PDT by goldi (')
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To: past_present

ping


51 posted on 08/18/2009 2:11:41 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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You have only to see the picture......


52 posted on 08/18/2009 3:06:23 PM PDT by Godwin1 (E)
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To: past_present

I know it’s South Bend, but a lot of other folks don’t. There are probably 50 Portage counties in the US. Just add (South Bend) after the title.


53 posted on 08/18/2009 3:15:07 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Obama - fooling fewer people every day.)
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To: past_present
“Authorities say five teen girls were repeatedly groped and threatened on a Portage school bus for months before the two 17-year-old boys and one 16-year-old boy were arrested in February.”
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Months? Did the girls say anything to their parents? And...What did the parents do about it? If they knew about it, why did they continue to allow their girls to ride the bus?

And...There are schools that are sooooo horrific that it would be better for the child to never attend school than to ever set foot in one. This seems to be one of those schools. Yes, I seriously mean it.

54 posted on 08/18/2009 3:21:44 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: past_present

“The family of one alleged victim is filing a civil tort against the Portage Township Schools, the first step in suing a government agency.”
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The above is from the article provided by your link.

The family should sue the principal and teachers **personally**. And...The principals and teachers should be held to the **same** standard (by the courts and child protection services) as a parent who allows known abuse to continue. If children would be removed from a parent who allowed this, then the teachers and principals should be **permanently** removed from any contact with children.


55 posted on 08/18/2009 3:29:33 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: Abathar
To give you an idea of how conservative the schools are here my son (last year fourth grade) went to a non-denominational bible study class held at a church across the street from the school every week right before lunch on Wednesdays.
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Children in this situation ( throughout the nation) learn to compartmentalize their faith into the categories of one side of the street and the other. While in the government school ( on one side of the street) the child is taught how to live without God, and for one puny period on the the other side of the street good hearted ( but foolish) people attempt to undo the damage.

If the Christians who run programs similar to this really **cared** about the spiritual well-being of children they would:

1) Completely rescue the children and get them into a private school program that solidly integrated their faith throughout the entire curriculum.

2) Work to shut down every government K-12 school in the nation. ALL of them are godless in their worldview.

56 posted on 08/18/2009 3:42:50 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: bayouranger

Yep. Sometimes playground justice toward a big fat bully can prevent a future socio/psychopath from developing.


57 posted on 08/18/2009 4:01:15 PM PDT by 1951Boomer
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To: past_present

“but maybe they could have challenged the thugs to a spelling bee?”

That one brought a deep belly laugh.


58 posted on 08/18/2009 4:02:26 PM PDT by 1951Boomer
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To: Venturer

When will he be setting up his Congressional campaign committee?


59 posted on 08/18/2009 4:02:57 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Hussein Baraka Mook Kebba)
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To: Abathar
I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure

I say we do the same to Minnesota as payback for Al Franken.

60 posted on 08/18/2009 4:05:31 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Hussein Baraka Mook Kebba)
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