Posted on 08/18/2009 6:21:11 AM PDT by steve-b
It's a long and ignominious list. First there was Newt Gingrich. Then came Larry Craig, Mark Foley, David Vitter, Chip Pickering and Vito Fossella. Now starring John Ensign and Mark Sanford.
Politically, sex scandals are equal-opportunity destroyers. For every David Vitter, there is an Eliot Spitzer. For every John Ensign there's a John Edwards. For every Bill Clinton there's... well, there's only one Slick Willie. But you get the point: Sexual scandal knows no party.
Yet, a common denominator linking many political sex scandals of the last few years is the involvement of conservative Christian politicians who, it seemed, had made sexual responsibility and marital fidelity cornerstones of their public and private lives. These figures reflect a broader reality: Many conservative Christians struggle to live up to the moral standards they espouse....
The Barna Group, a Christian polling firm, recently found that the divorce rate among evangelical Christians was 32 percent, statistically identical to the 33 percent figure among non-evangelical American adults.
In 2007, The State of Our Unions report by the National Marriage Project at Rutgers University concluded that though red-staters are more likely to be religious and politically conservative, they also are more likely to divorce than those from blue states....
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...
In truth, “separation of church and state”
was and is to keep the state from having influence in the church.
It in no way is or was intended to keep the church from having influence on the state.
If some of the Christians who are marrying stayed single ( the ones who shouldnt have married in the first place) , then the divorce numbers would drop.
This may seem like a small point, but the libertine's argument that Christian conservatives are nothing but shallow hypocrites really hinges on numbers. Figures lie and liars figure!
Yes. It is. That's what "rate" means.
You know, it's hard to accuse liberals of ignorance after posting such basic errors yourself....
However, it doesn’t avoid the problem of identification of evangelicals. If you are attacking a belief system, you cannot use self-identification to determine who to count. An evangelical who doesn’t go to church and who doesn’t know what is meant by ‘the Holy Spirit’ and who doesn’t believe in what the Bible says isn’t an evangelical - but a survey can impute his confusion onto the belief system.
In 2007, The State of Our Unions report by the National Marriage Project at Rutgers University concluded that though red-staters are more likely to be religious and politically conservative, they also are more likely to divorce than those from blue states....
Since I presume more people in blue states would just shack-up, I suspect this is a statistical anamoly
You got that right, it is PROJECTION at it’s height of hypocrisy.
And, the term “Conservative Christian” is redundant. You can’t be anything else but conservative and be walking in the light.
Thanks. As a 50% true Scotsman I appreciated that link.
I can’t see how “No True Scotsman” applies.
Is a pedophile priest a “true” priest ? Not hardly, he’s breaking several solemn vows. Hardly “true”, at least to his word.
Is a “Mormon” governor who supports abortion and homosexual “marriage” a “true” Mormon ? Not hardly, as his church teaches that both those things are abominations - the first, murder, and the second, a grievous sin.
I wouldn’t call the first a Catholic, or the second a Mormon. If I call myself a car, that doesn’t make it true.
Amen and Amen!
LLS
Another way of saying that is
there is no justifying leftist ideology
with biblical truth.
When confronted with this, “liberal Christians” will deny
the inerrancy of the Bible.
IOW, that 25 % that are just shacking up, or living out of wedlock and so on, should be evaluated as to whether they are "staying together". Or, if you cant do that, a big ASTERISK should be put next to this worthless poll.
BTW, since only about 25 % of Black males ever bother to get married, and if only 30 % of those get divorced, does that mean they have better "fidelity values" than Christian conservatives? It would to you, of course, I bet.
You only get to evaluate concepts where they apply. The concept “divorce” does not apply to people who were not married in the first place. QED.
I agree. I’m just pointing out that this poll is next to worthless as far as drawing any conclusions about “values”.
The reason Christians are losing the culture is due to infighting/bickering, a lack of commitment to personal holiness, and selfish-self seeking attitudes which shows the Body of Christ as walking in the same darkness as the rest of the world.
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