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for Pete's sake...

Leter refers to the use of a similar swine flu vaccine in the United States in 1976 when:

More people died from the vaccination than from swine flu.
- 500 cases of GBS were detected.
- The vaccine may have increased the risk of contracting GBS by eight times.
- The vaccine was withdrawn after just ten weeks when the link with GBS became clear.
- The US Government was forced to pay out millions of dollars to those affected.

1 posted on 08/16/2009 1:53:21 AM PDT by xtinct
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I remember getting the 76 flu shot. It was the first time I ever had a shot with one of those jet needle that they said wouldn't hurt. It hurt. I also remember the Guillain-Barre that followed. I always thought this played a part in Ford not getting re-elected. Yes the Nixon pardon affected people, but this was very personal. getting a mandated shot and they being paralyzed is not a confidence builder.
40 posted on 08/16/2009 7:19:46 AM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter(the Godfather of Terror) allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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The last time I got a flu shot was in 1969. It was for the Hong Kong flu. I became extremely ill with not only that but the Asian flu at the same time.

Last serious bout of flu that I got was December 1976. A mild, mild case was in February 1993.

I haven't gotten a flu shot since ‘69 and I won't be getting them just because I've gotten older.

Now I have had bronchitis twice within the past 18 months. I will be getting a pneumonia shot within the next couple of months to lessen the chances of lung infections going into pneumonia (now that I've be come prone to them).

41 posted on 08/16/2009 7:23:39 AM PDT by proudofthesouth (Zero is fast becoming America's Hitler.)
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One of the companies making the *new* flu vaccine has had some major issues.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Still-Think-They-re-Not-Tr-by-Mr-M-090305-202.html


43 posted on 08/16/2009 7:26:18 AM PDT by wolfcreek (KMTEXASA!)
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Does anyone know of a person who has contracted swine flu and how bad were the symptoms. I know of about five people who had a bad flu but were never tested for swine flu. If it is just a bad flu ...why the vacine?


45 posted on 08/16/2009 7:29:12 AM PDT by jetson
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So they are kicking around the idea of forcing this vaccine on us and/or our children and are also immune from lawsuits?!?!
They might as well come to my home with a weapon drawn on me. They are pushing us into violence and I have not figured out why yet. I have my theories but nothing definite, i mean they know we are incredibly well armed and MORE than willing to kill in defense.


49 posted on 08/16/2009 8:00:36 AM PDT by mkcc30 (Their lying tongues will become their nooses.)
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The internet anti-vaccine movement is so wrought with misinformation and outright lies that anything they publish is false by default. I shudder to think at the number of kids who got sick or died because of the “work” of the anti-vaccine crowd in the last ten years.


64 posted on 08/16/2009 9:25:06 AM PDT by mysterio
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Forced vaccination poison ping.


69 posted on 08/16/2009 10:24:58 AM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...

swine flu ping ...


78 posted on 08/16/2009 11:09:18 AM PDT by DvdMom (Freeper Smokin' Joe does the freeper Avian / H1N1 Ping List)
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I’ve received seasonal flu shots every year since 1991 and am happy to report not one case of ‘flu’ since. Prior to that I got hit hard with influenza a couple of times.

BUT........... this swine flu shot seems different — too dicey for my taste. I’m 60 now so seem to be out of the age range of those who get hardest hit by swine flu. I think I’ll pass on that vaccine.

BTW, for those of you over 60 who’ve had chicken pox, it’s a good idea to get an anti-shingles vaccine to help prevent shingles. Even if you’ve had shingles, you can get that plague again. This info was related to me via physicians and pharmacists, and patients alike.

I had a really bad case of shingles in late fifties and still have the non-stop discomfort from it — after nearly 3 years it’s not likely to go away — ever! Trust me, post- herpetic pain or itch is not something anyone wants —

Swine flu on the other hand — hmmm, I’ll take my chances without the shot.


82 posted on 08/16/2009 11:41:09 AM PDT by CaliforniaCon
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in 1999 I received my first flu shot....it was free at work.

I have been sick ever since. I was diagnosed 8 years later, (retroactively) with Guillain-Barre Syndrome. I have CIDP a type of peripheral neuropathy and am so lucky as to not being able to sue as it is so long ago. Finally last fall,I opted to take disability from my company plan....it has gotten that bad.

My 18 year old son recently was told he ‘needed’ a flu shot for college and he told them about my Guillain-Barre, and they quickly told him that no, it is just recommended.

There is a criminal element to health care that can only get worse is government gets involved.


83 posted on 08/16/2009 11:43:33 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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She said: ‘It makes me feel wary that the Government is rolling out this vaccine without any clear idea of the GBS risk, if any. I wouldn’t wish it on anyone and it certainly changed my life.

But they will have and already do have a good idea of the risk because of the clinical trials.

87 posted on 08/16/2009 12:01:25 PM PDT by MarMema (Marxism is never about truth, it is about power)
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Ahh, the new crisis. Designed to take our mind off of health care protests and point out that only the government can make sure you are vaccinated with a vaccine guaranteed to kill you off, if it is anything like some vaccines for flu given in the past.

This is just another manufactured crisis, one of many continuous scares designed to keep us off guard so the left can do whatever they want.

88 posted on 08/16/2009 12:18:52 PM PDT by calex59
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I have never taken a Flu shot since 1976.
I was sick for a year. I had some symptoms of GBS, especially muscular aches. No More anything flu shots for me.


92 posted on 08/16/2009 1:46:41 PM PDT by golfisnr1
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My cousin is an epidemiologist, working for a certain east coast state. She happens to be visiting me this weekend. We just had this discussion about an hour ago. She has no qualms about getting this flu vaccine herself. She says the risk of getting GBS are greater after getting certain types of food poisoning, such as campylobacter, than from this flu vaccine.


95 posted on 08/16/2009 7:08:36 PM PDT by toothfairy86
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They will run tests on safety etc...it isn’t like this will just go to the public.


99 posted on 08/17/2009 7:04:43 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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