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To: xtinct

The internet anti-vaccine movement is so wrought with misinformation and outright lies that anything they publish is false by default. I shudder to think at the number of kids who got sick or died because of the “work” of the anti-vaccine crowd in the last ten years.


64 posted on 08/16/2009 9:25:06 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: mysterio

[[The internet anti-vaccine movement is so wrought with misinformation and outright lies that anything they publish is false by default. I shudder to think at the number of kids who got sick or died because of the “work” of the anti-vaccine crowd in the last ten years.]]

Gotta agree with thaT statement mysterio- I have several pretty severe health conditions, and I’ve doen a lot of research into them, looking for ‘natural alternatives’ etc, and the garbage claims that are out htere for myriad products, claimign to ‘cure, or help’ any particular illness is incredible, and you always see ‘testimonies’ underneath the claims, but again, the problem with htese ‘testimonies’ is that thoe folks who claim to have been ‘cured’ did a great many lifestyle changes when they found out they had an illness, and in all likelihood were ‘helped’ not by the product, but rather by simple lifestyle changes after all. Anecdotasl evidences look impressive, but when you really examine the claims, I’ve foudn that there are simply so many variables that happened i nthese folks lives that it’s actually irresponsible to claim some ‘miracle herb’ was responsible for the change.

We have to be VERY careful- I know of several peopel that avoided cancer treatments who opted to ‘go hte natural route’ and who died who may have not died had they gone htrough conventional treatment early enough- I’ve got a neighbor that is BIG into ‘natural cures’ and they live in an area that is infested with ticks which cause lyme disease, and htey refuse to even get checked thinkign htey are protected by their natural products- this is just insane, and htere’s NO gettign htrough to these people either. They’re always bringing over soem super expensive drink or product made from some exotic Amazonian plant etc, and wantign us to get involved in marketting hte product- NO THANKS! I’ve seen too many peopel get royally screwed out of their hard earned money, only to what? Feel slightly better? IF that? These folks usually claim they ‘never felt better’ but lookign at them, they don’t look so hot

Sorry- carrying on- but it’;s just that I’ve investigated scam claims about natural products, and it really burns me that people would be SO cruel as to play on the emotions of sick folks who are desperate and lookign for help

But back to hte shot- Again we need more data before makign a decision, but to get it, there’ll have to be guinny pigs for sure, but so far hte numbers look good- actual research numbers, not anecdotal evidneces and ‘testimonies’


67 posted on 08/16/2009 9:40:13 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: mysterio

I shudder to think at the number of kids who got sick or died because of the “work” of the anti-vaccine crowd in the last ten years.

But you apparently aren’t bothered by the number of kids who were healthy until crammed full of dozens of vaccines and now have life-long ailments and problems. I have seen and experienced vaccine injury first hand. It is not some kooky internet conspiracy. It is real and it destroys lives. Why are vaccine manufacturers immune from lawsuits when their vaccines injure people if they are all so safe and wonderful?


74 posted on 08/16/2009 10:51:05 AM PDT by usmom
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