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Will Electric Cars Crash The Grid?
Investor's Business Daily ^
| August 14, 2009
| IBD staff
Posted on 08/14/2009 5:51:51 PM PDT by WhiteCastle
Conservation: The Chevy Volt is said to be able to get 230 miles per gallon. That's if it's continually plugged into a fragile and overburdened power grid. Where will you be when the lights go out?
Since most U.S. electricity generation is not carbon-free, the Congressional Research Service agrees. The "widespread adoption of plug-in hybrid vehicles through 2030 may have only a small effect on, and might actually increase, carbon emissions," it observes.
"If you are using coal-fired power plants and half the country's electricity comes from coal powered plants, are you just trading one greenhouse gas emitter for another?" asks Mark Gaffigan, co-author of the GAO report. The report notes: "Reductions in CO2 emissions depend on generating electricity used to charge the vehicles from lower-emission sources of energy."
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To: doc1019
Will Electric Cars Crash The Grid? Millions of electric cars would, however, electric cars without building more nuclear power plants will increase emissions from traditional power plants.
All this lib BS about saving oil and reducing dependency on oil-producing countries is a pipedream. You can't produce power with no environmental impact and electric cost to car owners. The cost and impact would only be reduced through nuclear power plants which the lefties don't want.
No matter what the libs say or promise, we have to pay the piper.
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posted on
08/16/2009 3:47:05 PM PDT
by
melancholy
(Hey Marxists, don't Crap & Tread on me. Zer0's defeat has just begun.)
To: Ditter
I went to your site but I didnt find the info that I have been wondering about.
How much will it add to your electricity to charge up your electric car?
If you mean gm-volt.com, that site is not mine. Dr. Lyle Dennis runs it. I've just been a long-time regular visitor to it.
A full charge will be about 8KWhrs (assuming you didn't have any charge left over from your last use). Multiply 8 times your rate for electricity and there's the cost for a charge.
Of course, after the charge is used up, the range extender kicks in. You are not stranded after 40 miles.
Also, if you haven't already, I suggest you check out the forum portion of gm-volt.com (click "Forum" in the menu bar at the top the page). If you don't find the information you want somewhere in there, by searching it, you can always post a question. People there are eager to help provide answers.
To: ColdWater
“How many gallon(s) in 1 tonne of coal equivalent? The answer is 222.431693989. We assume you are converting between gallon [U.S.] of automotive gasoline...”
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08/16/2009 3:58:49 PM PDT
by
Old Professer
(The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
To: Mike-o-Matic
My pacemaker battery is around 7 years life expectancy.
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posted on
08/16/2009 6:09:20 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Mike-o-Matic
Part of the idea is to switch to electric propulsion, since there are a variety of ways to make electricity.I know that - but it is NOT efficient to have an on board gas engine to drive a generator to charge the batteries to drive the car.
When it runs on the gas engine it's just like any other vehicle, only hauling around dead weight (or batteries.)
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posted on
08/16/2009 6:11:46 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: nascarnation
146
posted on
08/16/2009 6:12:24 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Mike-o-Matic
Of course, after the charge is used up, the range extender kicks in. You are not stranded after 40 miles.If someone STEALS your batteries, just what MILEage does the RANGE, ahem, extender do BY ITSELF?
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posted on
08/16/2009 6:13:51 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Mike-o-Matic
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posted on
08/16/2009 6:45:46 PM PDT
by
Ditter
To: Elsie
Wouldn’t it just be easier to steal the whole car?
To: Elsie
You’re correct, the genset is dead weight when not running. If you want an electric car but you’re NEVER going to use the range extender, you might want to buy a BEV instead of an EREV for this very reason.
However, you should also bear in mind there are reliability and efficiency gains to be had in having no transmission (which also helps offset the weight of the battery). Plus the engine is tuned for efficiency rather than power.
To: Mike-o-Matic
Wouldnt it just be easier to steal the whole car?I just want to know what the MILEAGE is for the GASOLINE 'range extender'.
Rope tows and inline skates would probably be the MOST effective type of transportation.
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08/17/2009 3:12:34 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Elsie
When it runs on the gas engine it's just like any other vehicle, only hauling around dead weight (or batteries.) It is not just like any other vehicle. You pop false statements faster then anyone can keep up with!
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