Posted on 08/14/2009 4:26:39 PM PDT by Winged Hussar
Obama's Statements on Health Care for Senior Citizens Consistent with German Aktion T4
Various commentators have stated mistakenly that HR 3200 contains provisions for "death panels" that will decide when it is time to "pull the plug on Grandma." We reviewed the portion of HR 3200 in question, and we found no such provisions whatsoever. There is a well-known adage, however, that the presence of smoke generally indicates a fire, and the New York Times has exposed the fire behind the smoke. Barack Obama's rhetoric on the cost of care for senior citizens and others toward the ends of their lives is consistent with that behind Germany's Aktion T4 euthanasia program.
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Kill the Bill, not Bubbe
He (the patient himself) chose to terminate treatment. But, Geraldo made the point that we need to, in essence, force the discussion onto the patient - supporting the statists plans to codify the discussion since most costs occur near the end of life. My wfe and I both blurted out "But that's the PATIENT'S CHOICE", not the government's "suggestion".
Geraldo alluded to a panel to force the discussion, but if the panelists already have the bias toward NOT treating, logic tells us that the panelists will advocate termination of care due to the costs.
How else would you describe the panel (or set of politically-appointed bureaucrats) OTHER THAN a "death panel"? Form follows function - they will have NO objectivity and will only advocate the cost-savings position of a quicker path to 'end of life' to satisfy their definition of the 'greater good'.
And if you don't like it, your "life years" will be reduced also!!!
The Gov't knows best...doncha know!!!
Typical liberal play book.
First, tell us we are nuts for suggesting evil exists.
Then, tell us that they have “fixed” the evil, even though they haven’t.
Then, tell us it isn’t evil!
It took FOREVER to convince many folks, in Kansas, that Tiller was killing full grown, healthy babies!
Those who claimed we were “nuts” then, have no shame at all, even though they were obviously wrong!
“Death panels” already exist in the US. Oregon’s health panel told one lady with cancer that she could not have the drug she needed because it was too expensive but told her they would pay for a $50 suicide ‘pill’.
Hence this escalation in the rhetoric.
It should always be a decision a patient makes in consultation with her doctor. A one-size-fits-all process can't work based upon age will never work properly or fairly.
it all boils down to this
do you think there is a single limited pie
or did God create plenty for everybody
Deathcare is in the bill and so is the death of freedom in America. They have loaded this bill with ubelievable provisions that determine your entire life. It’s incredible and it gives power to only a selected few God only knows what they are qualified for. It can also be added to without our knowledge or permission.
Say no to this bill and no to Obama and anyone that votes for it. Then kick them out of office.
Please don’t let us become a Germany during WWII.
We are headed that way. Dr. Zeke is terrifying..and he is on the panel to decide what procedures Americans are going to get.
Here is a video of him fleeing after someone draws attention to his works
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTTX5NCvt8I
I have see a lot of articles quoting his piece in this:
(Journal of the American Medical Association, June 18, 2008.)
but I haven’t seen the article itself. Still looking.
“In 1969, Willard Gaylin and Daniel Callahan (who later was on the board of the Society for the Study of Social Biology, the re-named American Eugenics Society)founded the Hastings Center, funded primarily by the individuals John D. Rockefeller III and Elizabeth Dollard, as well as by the National Endowment for the Humanities and the Rockefeller Foundation”
Dr Zeke is a fellow and uses his .gov email address on the site.
Dr Zeke doesn’t think you have the right to die if you want to die because you are racked with pain from cancer...but if beds at a hospital are scarce..apparently he thinks babies and old people aren’t worth saving.
” But, Geraldo made the point that we need to, in essence, force the discussion onto the patient ..”
Is Geraldo that naive that he thinks cancer patients don’t have a clue ?
Their mortality is suddenly front and center and guess what?
They want to live and will do anything- chemo, radiation and surgery..to live.
They, of all people-get the picture , the whole picture.
They get it.
Barry and his Snuffer Squads are willing and eager to psychologically depress and damage the will of seniors and seriously ill people
with images of caskets and shrouds to save money,
so he can fatten ACORN’s coffers.
Obama is an unconscionable and ghoulish creep .
There was also a 53 year old man from Oregon with prostate cancer who was told the state plan couldn’t cover the cost of the treatment, but would cover the cost of assisted suicide...
My elderly mother broke her hip. She had fairly advanced Alzheimer's disease. We tried rehab after the surgery, but she never again walked on her own. She died with a nice stainless steel hip. No problem, since the insurance and Medicare paid for it.
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NEWSFLASH! GOVERNOR RICK PERRY IS SCHEDULED TO BE ON PLAINS RADIO MONDAY, AUGUST 17 FROM 7-8 PM CST TO DISCUSS
OBAMA DEATHCARE AND INVOKING THE 10TH AMENDMENT OVER IT.
PLAINS RADIO:
http://www.plainsradio.com/radio.html
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ATTENTION FELLOW TEXANS:
Governor Rick Perry may invoke the 10th Amendment over Obama’s health care bill (Vanity)
7/23/09 | Cowtowney
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2299225/posts?q=1&;page=51
Get after Perry, Texans. Burn up his switch board and fax!
Let him know we don’t want Obama DeathCare.
Say no to Obama’s DeathCare.
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No! NO you don’t, you muzzie pos. You’re not denying our seniors deserved health care while insuring millions of illegal aliens and while Demorats are REJECTING Obamacare for themselves and their families!
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This is a good organization:
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Facts about the 10th Amendment:
The Tenth Amendment (Amendment X) of the United States Constitution, which is part of the Bill of Rights, was ratified on December 15, 1791. The Tenth Amendment restates the Constitution’s principle of Federalism by providing that powers not granted to the national government nor prohibited to the states are reserved to the states or the people.
The truth about government controlled healthcare:
Government healthcare is failing miserably in Massachusetts
If you think a government run healthcare system can work and be more affordable, read this... http://www.notintexas.org/Front_5.htm
Article from the Washington Examiner 1/11/09:
“Obama’s health policy advisers should take a good look at the smoldering wreckage in the Bay State before trying to impose any such “universal coverage” on the rest of the nation.” Link http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/Universal_coverage_First_look_at_the_disaster_in_Massachusetts_011109.html
More interesting reading - Free Market Cure
http://www.freemarketcure.com/
HCR 50 HAS PASSED THE HOUSE 99-36!
Affirming that the State of Texas claims sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over all powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by the U.S. Constitution, serving notice to the federal government to cease and desist certain mandates, and providing that certain federal legislation be prohibited or repealed.
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That is terrifying. Who are these people? These people that would be selected to tell us how to live or die?
Mind boggling.
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