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Spain's Justice Minister says doctors not allowed to object to abortion (is the US next?)
cna ^ | August 14, 2009

Posted on 08/14/2009 3:16:47 PM PDT by NYer

Francisco Caamano, Spain's Minister of Justice

Madrid, Spain, Aug 14, 2009 / 04:13 pm (CNA).- The Collegial Medical Organization and various pro-life groups in Spain have strongly rejected statements by the country’s Minister of Justice, Francisco Caamano, who said Thursday that “there is no room for conscientious objection” when it comes to abortion. 
 
The president of the Collegial Medical Organization, Dr. Juan Jose Rodriguez Sendin, said, “The right doctors have in Spain to conscientious objection is going to be respected, whether they like it or not, and it is better this is accepted on good rather than on bad terms.”
 
Conscientious objection is universally recognized in the medical profession, he insisted, noting that the commitment not to kill, not to abort, not to take part in torture, not to betray patients has been part of medical practice for more than 40 centuries.
 
“It should not seem strange to any normal person that doctors do not want to perform abortions, what ought to seem strange is the opposite,” he added. “Because it is not an ideological problem, it is simply a question of freedom. For this reason, we are going to defend the right of doctors to conscientious objection,” Rodriguez said.
 
The Association for the Defense of Conscientious Objection issued a press release calling the statements by the Minister of Justice “sectarian, imprudent and revealing of a manifest scorn for constitutional law, which considers conscientious objection to abortion a right of doctors and other health care professionals.” 

“For the vast majority of doctors, the rejection of abortion is not based on moral principles but on the conviction that it presupposes ending human life,” the association warned.
 
It also noted that conscientious objection is the last resort for a citizen “when an obligation imposed by law causes rejection or a grave moral conflict.”   “We are certain that the Minister would not want to ‘taste his own medicine’ if he found himself in other circumstances,” the group said.
 
“We deplore the ‘crusade’ that has been launched in recent days against freedom of conscience,” the association said, calling on the Minister of Justice to publicly clarify “whether his respect for freedom of conscience is sincere or is subject to political interests.”
  
Right to Life spokesperson, Gador Joya, warned Caamano that no minister and no government “can force a doctor to end a human life and harm the health of his patients. No matter what Mr. Caamano says, we doctors protect life and care for our patients. The vast majority does not practice abortion nor will we,” she stressed.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: abortion; conscience; spain

1 posted on 08/14/2009 3:16:52 PM PDT by NYer
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2 posted on 08/14/2009 3:17:32 PM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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To: NYer
"there is no room for conscientious objection” when it comes to abortion."

What kind of a person would INSIST that a doctor kill a life? Who would FORCE a doctor who did NOT BELIEVE in stripping a little growing baby from its first nest? IF there are not enough doctors to kill little lives still growing in the quiet of mom's womb, then TOUGH SHIT! No where in our constitution is CONTROL OVER DOCTORS and their CHOICE OF MEDICAL PRACTICE AND DECISION WRITTEN INTO IT....I feel sorry for the Spanish doctors. My heart breaks for them.

3 posted on 08/14/2009 3:21:57 PM PDT by Republic (Uhbama is a LIAR! Uhbama is REALLY A LIAR! UhBAMA LIED TO ALL OF US TODAY!)
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To: NYer
the rejection of abortion is not based on moral principles but on the conviction that it presupposes ending human life,

Well, that sent me into a whirlwind of cognitive dissonance. Perhaps the conviction that it presupposes ending a human life IS a moral principle is something the leftists are missing?

Just for the record, I take as a moral principle that ending a human life without moral cause is immoral. Murder, abortion, euthanasia are all immoral. Taking lives in moral warfare or self-defense is abhorrent, but moral.

/johnny

5 posted on 08/14/2009 3:23:58 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: NYer
I am “pro choice” and believe that abortion is NOT a federal issue, it is States Rights issue and is a decision that must be made my the woman, her doctor and her God.

Forcing a Doctor to preform an act that he or she can not support because of religious beliefs is WRONG and must NEVER be allow to be forced upon the medical community.

6 posted on 08/14/2009 3:25:15 PM PDT by WellyP
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To: NYer

Where is the King in all this? Surely he has something to say about his governments ministers.


7 posted on 08/14/2009 3:27:23 PM PDT by rahbert ("That's not art, it's crap!")
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To: All

Mark my words. Communism will arise again!


8 posted on 08/14/2009 3:27:23 PM PDT by Pope Pius XII (There's no such thing as divorce)
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To: Morgana
I thought Spain was a Catholic country.....WTF?

Does the Spanish Inquisition ring a bell?
9 posted on 08/14/2009 3:51:40 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: welly; NYer
It is exactly because of the belief that objection to abortion is a “religious” issue that doctors will be coerced to perform abortion or risk losing their medical license.

Those who want to make abortion fully funded and fully available to anyone say that it should be illegal for a medical provider to deny a procedure that is legal to a woman that requests it. They will use this same argument to force medical schools to teach the procedure or lose funding and for a medical student to be forced to participate or lose his/her scholarship or grants.

It cannot be a “state” issue anymore than it should be a “federal” one. It is a “human rights” issue both for the unborn HUMAN (undeniable) and the medical providers. Abortion IS taking a human life and the only moral provision that can allow it is in the case of the mother's life in imminent danger (where both mother and child will die without immediate intervention, i.e.; tubal pregnancy). All OB/GYNs are trained for this rare but sometimes necessary procedure.

Doctors should be allowed to object for any reason, “religious” or otherwise. It is their human right!

10 posted on 08/14/2009 3:54:25 PM PDT by boatbums (Pro-woman, pro-child, pro-life!)
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To: WellyP

Do you feel the same way about murder? Legal in some states — and between the killer, his weapon and their God?


11 posted on 08/14/2009 3:58:54 PM PDT by rom (Israel got Saul before they got David. Where's our David?)
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To: NYer
It's a "human right", don't you see? There can be no room for "conscientious objection" when human rights are at stake.

Once abortion becomes officially so defined by the UN, it will simply be a matter of time before punitive measures are taken against dissenters.

12 posted on 08/14/2009 4:08:14 PM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: Morgana
I thought Spain was a Catholic country

192 people lost their lives on March 11 2004 as ten bombs exploded across commuter trains in Spain. This occurred as the country was getting ready to vote. The result? They voted in the Socialist Party. Since then, the Socialists have guided them down the slippery slope to their culture of death. Is it any wonder the Holy Father has chosen Spain to host the next World Youth Day in 2011. May he bring their government rulers enlightenment and the country's Catholics, hope and courage to continue their battle.

13 posted on 08/14/2009 4:53:43 PM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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The slippery slope in Spain started getting slippery long before the 2004 bombings.

Some of it I believe was a knee-jerk over-reaction to the end of Franco's rule. The church in some regards was viewed as pro-Franco. By the end of his reign Franco was not very popular, and the church ... and everything it stands for ... shared in this.

14 posted on 08/14/2009 5:37:27 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (These fragments I have shored against my ruins)
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To: boatbums
It cannot be a “state” issue anymore than it should be a “federal” one. It is a “human rights” issue both for the unborn HUMAN (undeniable) and the medical providers. Abortion IS taking a human life and the only moral provision that can allow it is in the case of the mother's life in imminent danger (where both mother and child will die without immediate intervention, i.e.; tubal pregnancy). All OB/GYNs are trained for this rare but sometimes necessary procedure.

It is true that, in rare instances, abortion is necessary. I knew someone who had a tubal pregnancy, then lost triplets (from placenta previa). Her fifth child turned out to be the only survivor.

Why someone would intentionally take a human life is beyond me.

16 posted on 08/14/2009 8:07:35 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: NYer
Spain's Justice Minister says doctors not allowed to object to abortion (is the US next?)

I pretty much think so.

17 posted on 08/14/2009 9:00:11 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Republic
So, who's going to do the abortions? Death squads? Because I see doctors quitting their profession because of this and other problems, or not becoming doctors at all. And if the doctors are gone, who's going to kill the unborn masses?

/heavy sarc

18 posted on 08/14/2009 11:50:46 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: NYer

Woe unto Spain.


19 posted on 08/17/2009 8:01:28 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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