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You Might Be a Birther if...
American Thinker ^ | August 14, 2009 | Kyle-Anne Shiver

Posted on 08/13/2009 11:37:22 PM PDT by FTJM

Please call me skeptical. It's a label I proudly wear. Since my first day of second grade, when I traded my homemade chocolate-chip cookies for a smooth-talking fourth-grader's out-of-ink ballpoint pen, I've been a wary consumer.

So, if a presidential candidate tries to hand me a barebones certificate of live birth in lieu of a valid, long-form birth certificate, my skeptical antennae go on alert. I automatically question his motives and whether or not he may be trying to play a little fast and loose with the U.S. Constitution. When that same president purportedly spends over a million dollars on legal fees, merely to keep a simple document sealed, then I'm starting to become curiouser and curiouser.

All in all, though, I might be able to get past the whole long-form birth certificate issue if this president had released the whole host of other life documentation, generally required for high-level job applications.

To whit, what is in the following documents that might diminish the Obama "narrative," as sold to the public by marketing guru, David Axelrod, and a strangely incurious media?

* Panahou Academy school records, 5th through 12th grades * Occidental College records, including financial aid information. * Columbia University records, including the missing senior thesis and financial aid information. * Harvard University records, including information on how a student who never wrote anything (that can be found) was elected president of the prestigious law review, and including information on how Harvard Law School was afforded by humble community agitator, Barack Obama. * Obama's Illinois state senate records and papers, mysteriously lost.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: article2section1; barackobama; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; colb; eligibility; ineligible; naturalborn; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; usurper
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1 posted on 08/13/2009 11:37:22 PM PDT by FTJM
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To: FTJM

BTTT.


2 posted on 08/13/2009 11:46:56 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: FTJM

Although I’m a ‘birther’, I’m not crazy about the term. It’s too focused on just the long-form birth certificate. I want ALL of his records released. We need to come up with a term/phrase that can be used to describe folks who want all of Zero’s records released.


3 posted on 08/13/2009 11:50:08 PM PDT by joejm65
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To: joejm65
How about “Truther” or “Discloser”?
4 posted on 08/14/2009 12:01:32 AM PDT by JerseyJohn61 (Better Late Than Never.......sometimes over lapping is worth the effort....)
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To: joejm65

Constitutional Organizers.


5 posted on 08/14/2009 12:04:14 AM PDT by FTJM
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To: penelopesire; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; BP2; Pablo Mac; April Lexington; ...

~~PING!


6 posted on 08/14/2009 12:07:07 AM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: JerseyJohn61

Not ‘truther’, that’s of the name of the 9/11 conspiracy people. Discloser? Maybe. This should be it’s own thread, I’d love to hear a lot of suggestions. After a few hours of sleep, I’ll give it a shot.


7 posted on 08/14/2009 12:09:26 AM PDT by joejm65
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To: STARWISE

I am not an After Birther.

Those are the haters.

I just want some records released.


8 posted on 08/14/2009 12:14:37 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Live free or die.)
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To: joejm65
Yeah, kept thinking the term “truther” rang a bell.
Could not place it as that story now seems like ancient
history.

How about “Day Lighters”?

Good night.

JJ61

9 posted on 08/14/2009 12:15:27 AM PDT by JerseyJohn61 (Better Late Than Never.......sometimes over lapping is worth the effort....)
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To: FTJM

I remember when the birth certificate stuff starting coming up last fall, I thought it was BS. But the fact that Obama and his people dodge the question at every turn has turned my eyebrow up. The best way to fuel a conspiracy is to refuse to talk about it.


10 posted on 08/14/2009 12:18:18 AM PDT by RAO1125 (Neoconservatism:Failed. Socialism:Failing (again). Next up: Libertarianism)
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To: joejm65

Verifier


11 posted on 08/14/2009 12:21:09 AM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: FTJM
I love the last paragraph which says.......

At this juncture, every single American of every political stripe might want to claim the title, "Birther." It is, after all, as American as apple pie to simply and politely say, "Show me."

(see my tag line)

12 posted on 08/14/2009 12:37:30 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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To: FTJM
While the birth certificate is not the only document that I want to see, I realize that this document is the lynch-pin. Right now, this is where the battle is being fought. If we don't win this one, then all the other requests will simply whither on the vine. They will have won. If we do get this document, and there is something fishy with it (as I suspect there will be), then there will be an unstoppable hue and cry for the remaining documents. The people asking for them will have gale force winds at their back.

For all the people who are saying that the other documents are more important (visa, school financing, etc.), I say to you: Our battle is your battle. Our victory will be your victory, our defeat will be your defeat. The birth certificate is the point of the spear, the flash point of the battle, the point where victory or defeat will be determined. It is important.

13 posted on 08/14/2009 12:41:23 AM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Sarah Palin: Americas last, best hope for survival.)
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To: FTJM

According to a focus group participant on Hannity last night you are a birther if you have a son with cerebral pasly, are a stay at home mom, don’t want the government dictating who shall live and who shall lie.........then you are all birthers.


14 posted on 08/14/2009 3:17:03 AM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: FTJM
You should also add in there : You might be a Townhaller if ?

You might be a Townhaller if : The host politician is talking, but doesn't know what he or she is talking about, and never read the StealthCare plan that they want to force on us as fast as they can.

15 posted on 08/14/2009 4:01:18 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: JerseyJohn61; joejm65

How about “historian?”


16 posted on 08/14/2009 4:07:27 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Rebellion is not brewing. Frog is brewing.)
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To: joejm65

Constitutionalist


17 posted on 08/14/2009 4:13:07 AM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: FTJM
Please try to understand, Obama is illegitimate with or without a U.S. birth certificate. If being just a citizen of the U.S. was sufficient to becoming president, then every anchor baby, every child born of illegal immigrant Muslim Terrorists on U.S. soil would be eligible to be commander in chief. The authors of our Constitution thought lots about that danger. Federalist 2 through 5 by John Jay discuss just the danger of foreign influence. Jay asked Washington to change Hamilton's early draft from Citizen of the U.S. to "natural born citizen" for just that reason. We have the early draft. What makes him illegitimate is that his father was a British-Kenyan citizen, making Barack Jr. a British citizen by the British Nationality Act of 1948. That is probably why Obama will not release his passports; and perhaps why Obama's Security Czar employed a contractor working in The records division of the U.S. State Department, who "cauterized" Obama's passport records - and who was conveniently shot through the head last Spring while sitting in front of a Church in Virginia. (According to what little appeared in the press, Clinton and McCain's files were also breeched, but only Obama's had documents removed).

Our Constitution requires that a president be a natural born citizen. No law (Congress) can modify the constitution, and there is no active law which bears upon the common law definition of natural born citizen, though it is cited in a half dozen Supreme Court cases. The only way the common law definition can be changed is by amending the constitution, and that amendment has been proposed in Congress at least twenty four times. There were over a dozen law review articles before Obama's election questioning the natural born citizen provision. Some were by obvious Obama associates - some not so obvious. But Article II is law.

The birth certificate is a diversion. If and when our legal system does its duty to respect, protect and obey our constitution, and our representatives and officers of the court stop committing the felony of failing to act upon recognizing a federal crime, a judge will initiate the discovery process, which Obama will fight, but which will force exposure of all those documents - unless Obama resigns, which I suspect he will do.

He has told us in two autobiographies that his father was a non-citizen. He is depending upon our ignorance of the constitution, and upon the natural reaction that most have when someone boldly states a fact; we think “OK, that must be legal or he wouldn't have told us!” No. In both the common law as defined by our Supreme Court in numerous cases, and in British Common Law, which we partly replaced with our Constitution, allegiance is passed from the father to the son. Our common law, defined as such by Chief Justice Marshall and many others, using Vattel’s Law of Nations as the defining legal dictionary, says born on our soil of parents who are citizens.

The Alinsky way is to call originalists “Birthers”. The birth certificate is irrelevant, though certainly interesting. Obama’s passports are probably (thank you Donofrio) of more relevance, since they will confirm Obama’s British, or Kenyan, or Indonesian citizenship. It all began with his father, the Marxist Muslim, and that is where it should have stopped. It would have stopped if McCain didn't also have natural born problems.

What we all know is that we don't know Obama's allegiances. Observing Article II Section 1 would have spared us this assault on the liberties we value, because the British Citizen in the White house has little allegiance to our principles and people. He has the audacity to think he can remake our government and write a new constitution, as both he and George Soros have publically discussed. He didn't succeed as a U.S. Senator campaigning for his cousin Odinga, the East German trained Communist, who promised Sharia law for 90% Christian Kenya within six months of becoming President. But the defeat cost the lives of over a thousand Kenyans, attacked by Muslim thugs. The peaceful way to reject Obama is through our Constitution. We don't allow children of non-ciitizen to be commander in chief. That is Article II, Section 1 Clause 5.

18 posted on 08/14/2009 4:33:07 AM PDT by Spaulding
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy
I love the last paragraph....

My favorite is the accounting of  Democrat stonewalling:

  

...what is in the following documents that might diminish the Obama "narrative," ...

  • Panahou Academy school records, 5th through 12th grades

  • Occidental College records, including financial aid information.

  • Columbia University records, including the missing senior thesis and financial aid information.

  • Harvard University records, including information on how a student who never wrote anything (that can be found) was elected president of the prestigious law review, and including information on how Harvard Law School was afforded by humble community agitator, Barack Obama.

  • Obama's Illinois state senate records and papers, mysteriously lost.

Add to that the passport records that Obama feloniously "cauterized".  This subject goes far beyond whether he lied to be president; it goes to just what kind of criminal we're dealing with.

19 posted on 08/14/2009 4:38:39 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: joejm65

There’s a reason for using the term to define us. Using the term “birther” successfully hides the fact that his past has been hidden and focuses on just the BC which has been easy for them to dismiss. I haven’t seen any SRM article that states we want to see all his hidden records. Hence we can be dismissed as “nuts” rather than seekers of the truth.


20 posted on 08/14/2009 4:45:12 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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