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Volume of 'subdivision' vacant lots overwhelms banks
AJC ^ | 08/08/09 | Paul Donsky

Posted on 08/11/2009 4:47:21 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

Volume of 'subdivision' vacant lots overwhelms banks

Some fire-sale prices on have dipped to 20 to 30 cents on the dollar

By Paul Donsky

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

12:00 p.m. Saturday, August 8, 2009

You think it’s hard selling a house these days? Try unloading a subdivision.

And not just any subdivision, but one with few if any completed homes and a weedy patch where the swim-and-tennis center was planned.

That’s the reality many Georgia banks find themselves in amid a foreclosure crisis that has claimed not only individual homes but also entire failed developments.

These idled, “zombie” subdivisions can be found across metro Atlanta, but they’re most prevalent in outer-ring suburban areas. Selling them has proven tough, with some properties sitting on the market for months on end without even a nibble.

The fallout has been stark.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: bank; firesale; realestate; subdivision
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To: caver; glide625

See post 18. This kind of thing affects all of us.


21 posted on 08/11/2009 5:35:29 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Doing the dirt work and putting in the sewer and water systems in subdivisions is what my son has been doing for the past 9 years. He rarely worked less than 60 hours a week. When we were visiting last month he took us to 3 empty subdivisions that he had done and pointed out even more that had one or two houses completed but empty.

Real estate in his area has been prohibitively expensive but he thinks he can afford to buy a house now.


22 posted on 08/11/2009 5:55:26 AM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: bert; TigerLikesRooster; All

“Imagine the chagrin of the neighbor who paid 400 grand for a property and the one next door goes for only 75 g’s”

There doesn’t need to be a ‘financial crisis’ of any kind for that to happen; you just need Socialists running your city!

‘The People’s Republik of Madistan’ has tons of vacant high-rise condos downtown that no one wants. Literally millions of dollars tied up on these TIFF funding scams (where the city kicks in a percentage for the builder) and they DEMANDED Section Eight housing be part of those projects.

So, those with the means get to have a high-rise condo for $400K and their Section Eight neighbors get theirs for $100K for the same floorspace and gorgeous lake view.

People of means are NOT stupid and aren’t buying, or if they’re smart they’re hiding their assets and applying for the Section Eight housing, LOL!

Eventually, those luxury condos will all go Section Eight, the city will ultimately be responsible for the bill (which means the TAXPAYERS will be!) and we’ll have yet another blighted spot on our hands where the thugs with ‘unreportable income sources’ from Chicago and Milwaukee move in and take over.

It’s pure insanity...but it’s PLANNED insanity where the LeftTards are concerned! It’s all about being FAIR. *SPIT*


23 posted on 08/11/2009 5:55:47 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: glide625

As long as people are still losing their jobs there will be no recovery.


24 posted on 08/11/2009 5:58:44 AM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

“The hardest hit areas are on the region’s fringe, Palm said, such as Bartow, Jackson and Newton counties, where there’s tons of supply and few sales.

Sitting in front of a computer at his home office, Palm pulls up a color-coded map of metro Atlanta showing lot supply by U.S. Census tract. An ominous arc of dark reds and browns encircles Atlanta.

‘This is the ring of death,’ he said.”

I’ll bet every major metro area has a ‘ring of death’ these days. Even my little Cow Town of 6K has a condo subdivision with golf course built on the outskirts about five years ago with most of it sitting empty and only the smaller condos selling. Acres and acres sitting, waiting for ONE single-family home to be built there, and then last season when we had the flooding, a lot of the condos had water damage due to poor drainage design!

http://www.thelegendatbergamont.com/real-estate

Poor Andy North, LOL! Some ‘legend’ to leave behind, but it is a very pretty spot with all that ‘green’ but I’m sure they were thinking dollars, not grass, LOL!


25 posted on 08/11/2009 6:05:24 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: esoxmagnum

It is in the organization of their businesses and they have good lawyers.

The government is getting ready to do a buyout of dairys. The government buys the cows and you aren’t allowed to have a dairy for a year but most of them are going to have one immediately after the buyout using different organizing techniques.

When the government runs those cattle through cattle auctions to recoup some of their money there will be an oversupply of beef and beef cattle ranchers are going to take it on the chin.

Farmers who grow feed will also take it on the chin and I guess even more than they are now. Alfalfa has gone from 200 a ton to 60 just recently.


26 posted on 08/11/2009 6:09:06 AM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: caver

You pays your monies and you takes your chances....it has always been thus.


27 posted on 08/11/2009 6:09:33 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: glide625
"I’m still researching the matter but one analyst I’ve been following is suggesting we’d best be putting some cash aside to prepare for a “Bank Holiday”."

Others have said that as well.

I suggest you put aside more than money too.

28 posted on 08/11/2009 6:17:03 AM PDT by blam
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To: tiki
The government is getting ready to do a buyout of dairys.

Why? Propping up the price of cheese? This sounds like FDR's plan where the government paid farmers to fail and other people starved.

29 posted on 08/11/2009 6:26:12 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: glide625

Thank you.


30 posted on 08/11/2009 10:25:31 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: FreedomPoster

I’ve got a similar PVC forest over in Smyrna across the street from my neighborhood. It was supposed to be laden with $400K homes that would eventually drive the value of the entire neighborhood up...at least that’s what the developer told us all.


31 posted on 08/11/2009 1:19:42 PM PDT by bamahead (Avoid self-righteousness like the devil- nothing is so self-blinding. -- B.H. Liddell Hart)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Not when they are worth 10 on the dollar, no opportunity here. When housing prices were obsurd developers would pay anything knowing they could pass it on and a buyer would show up willing. Now those parcels of land they paid rediculous sums of money for, aren’t worth didly, particularly undeveloped.


32 posted on 08/11/2009 1:21:39 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: wtc911

To you and others who are watching this, please see:
http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/1319-Banking-and-Credit-It-Is-NOT-Over.html

I think I should post something like a “may make you sick to your stomach” alert. It’s a reasonably better explanation of what I’ve been finding in my endless quest for the truth. Sadly, the MSM and those who might better understand the machinations of the banking business are playing it very close to the vest and I’m having a great deal of trouble gathering quality information on this topic.


33 posted on 08/11/2009 1:33:39 PM PDT by glide625
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I’m in one of these subdivisions, although in SC. 1 builder built 15-20 homes, then sold the remaining of 77 lots to another builder. That builder put up 10-15 homes (total now of 31) before both builders went bankrupt.

The remaining 30+ lots have gone to a bank who does not seem all that interested in selling them yet. A neighbor and I have been interested in buying and splitting the lot between us, but the bank is not interested yet.


34 posted on 08/11/2009 2:17:51 PM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: glide625
I believe there is a very well informed grouping of Freepers concerning economic issues, however there are a few lurking shills for the banking industry spreading their disinformation.

In terms of the general public they are now waking up (unless hard-core Obama hacks) to the fact what's in the White House is dangerously dictatorial, not only on state-mandated health care schemes, but numerous other issues.

35 posted on 08/11/2009 2:20:25 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is not 'free'.)
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To: melissa_in_ga

“Not only are they a blight on the landscape, but they are prime opportunities for kids to get in trouble by racing the roads and congregating for beer parties.”

Those were fun times!


36 posted on 08/11/2009 2:21:40 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Obama--POtuS.)
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To: bamahead

Oof. I’m glad I don’t have anything like that, that close to me.


37 posted on 08/11/2009 2:43:24 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: angkor

Mortgage fraud may be a stretch for some, but stupid lending and hit-and-run mortgage brokerage fees sure come to mind. Too bad there is no claw-back to hit the mortgage brokers.


38 posted on 08/11/2009 4:44:21 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: glide625

Thanks again, from a RE investor.


39 posted on 08/11/2009 6:31:20 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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