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Obama to explain health plan at 'town hall' meet (Obama begins trotting out "failed system victims")
afp ^ | 8/11/2009 | AFP

Posted on 08/11/2009 3:45:04 AM PDT by tobyhill

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To: tobyhill

> ... a “preexisting condition” which many insurers use to deny patients coverage ...

Some one really needs to explain to these people that insurance companies make no money by rejecting clients.


41 posted on 08/11/2009 4:48:31 AM PDT by bluejay
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Its verbal rope-a-dope....they use state plan and state health and state $hit interchangeably because they think the general masses won’t figure it out.....they want us to think that our current system sucks.......we see this all the time when the States come to us and want to increase their coverage, and they trot out the anecdotes and sob stories of who’s not getting what. I personally deal with mainly CHIP, MRDD, and Indian Health, and I can’t tell you the number of times I’ve listened to those stories and seen these unfortunates standing at the podium whining about their lack of coverage, only to see them drive off in a Cadillac.....its so cliche, you wouldn’t even think its real. Honestly, give me 30 minutes with this woman, and I could find her affordable and comprehensive coverage that would pull the rug out from under this lying mad man.

Man, is this a great way to begin the work day.


42 posted on 08/11/2009 4:50:12 AM PDT by Badabing Badablonde (New to the internet? CLICK HERE)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
See the magician in the Zero, “my health care plan” without saying what his plan is. There is a “plan” in both houses of Congress, Barry apparently chooses not to know the details of any of them, sets up his straw horse plan and then says anyone who is against his “plan” (the one that has never been mentioned) is wrong headed. Anyone trying to fight “his plan” is shadow boxing at midnight.

This guy is a three card Monte dealer in an Armani, nothing more.

43 posted on 08/11/2009 4:52:56 AM PDT by Mouton
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To: tobyhill

There is one thing Obama has done for us.
He has made it easy to determine which policies are good for America and which will lead to our destruction.

If Obama is against a policy we know it is good for America.

If Obama is in favor of a policy we know it will be bad for America.

This test never fails.


44 posted on 08/11/2009 5:00:15 AM PDT by Iron Munro (You can't kill the beast while sucking at its teat - Claire Wolfe)
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To: Badabing Badablonde
They use all kinds of propaganda like that, the worst being the term "healthcare"

I believe there are three basic legs to the network, private insurers, providers, and medical welfare.

The governments should leave the insurers the hell alone and allow total underwriting and risk pools

The providers are largely co-opted by having become "non-profit" and entering into a "public/private" partnership. IE run by the government.

The only part of the three legged stool that should be subject to federal reform is MEDICAL WELFARE, which the governments push and do not pay for with any consistency.

The practice of providers' "cost shifting" (subsidizing welfare underpayment with overcharges to insurers and cash paying patients) should be highly illegal in all states or nationally and have painful consequences.

Other than that, I have no strong opinion.

45 posted on 08/11/2009 5:01:45 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: tobyhill

So his show horses don’t have a problem with the availability of health care or health insurance.

They just have a problem with the availability of healthcare and insurance paid by taxpayers.


46 posted on 08/11/2009 5:09:58 AM PDT by Iron Munro (You can't kill the beast while sucking at its teat - Claire Wolfe)
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To: tobyhill
Knowing this so-called town hall meeting will be carefully choreographed and staged - I suppose the only ones who will find benefit from attending/watching will be those stupid enough to have voted for Obama in the first place.

My only interest is how long Obama will take to somehow weave in the race card into this, it's his comfort zone. It's his core talent as a community organizer. It's also “acting stupidly.”

47 posted on 08/11/2009 5:10:11 AM PDT by Made In The USA (BO stinks.)
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To: tobyhill; All

Check out the numbers in GA for a townhall

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KajineWY6vA

Another Matthews spew re: HC:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2313226/posts?page=1


48 posted on 08/11/2009 5:11:27 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Ez 38 Pray.)
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To: tobyhill
Page 5: She was on the Democrat State Committee payroll:

New Hampshire Democrat State Committee Statement of Receipts and Expenditures

49 posted on 08/11/2009 5:19:44 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: tobyhill
Fox News just did a live segment from the site.

People are already lining up on both sides of the road.

Fox reported that the police were going to make those against the plan go far away from the road near the woods.

Somehow they got the police to change their minds and they were permitted to take the opposite side of the road from those supporting ObamaCare.

50 posted on 08/11/2009 5:24:06 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: tobyhill
Obama was scheduled to travel to Portsmouth, New Hampshire for what could be a rowdy 'town hall-style' meeting

Does that mean he didn't go? Did Mr. Obama chicken out at the last minute?

51 posted on 08/11/2009 5:41:25 AM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: conservativehusker
“A state health care program would cost her 750 dollars a month with a 500 dollar deductible, which “Lori is unable to afford”, the official said”

DH and I don't have pre-existing conditions and our health insurance costs more than this per month.

How many people are there like Lori? 1% of the population - 5%? Is it beneficial for the other 90%+ to have the government take over the healthcare industry for just these situations?

52 posted on 08/11/2009 5:43:53 AM PDT by randita (Chains we can bereave in.)
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To: tobyhill

Excellent. Send that information to Drudge, Hannity, Beck et al. This is the same as when Obama would hold town halls during the campaign and take questions from so called “Jane/John Does” when they were actually Democrat activists.


53 posted on 08/11/2009 5:46:16 AM PDT by randita (Chains we can bereave in.)
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To: Westbrook

The Left ALWAYS takes the exceptions and manages to sell us on the idea that they are the RULE. It then fashions federal centralized law around these exceptions, and before you know it, you have something like Roe V. Wade demagogued into 36 years of “settled law”. Roe V. Wade managed to sell the idea that pregnant women w/o access to safe, paid-for, officially sanctioned abortions were dying with bloody coat hangers in their hands, in the exact numbers as foetuses would be put to death in the coming three and a half decades. And ALL this when birth control in the form of “the pill” allowed women to avoid getting pregnant in the first place.


54 posted on 08/11/2009 6:06:57 AM PDT by supremedoctrine (Time is the school in which we learn that time is the fire in which we burn.)
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To: tobyhill

Obama, King of the Liars.


55 posted on 08/11/2009 6:24:11 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: tobyhill
"Lori Hitchcock, 52, a self-employed widow who has been unable to get health insurance because she has Hepatitis C"......Well, I'm a little sympathetic. Dunno how she contracted it. But, of what little I *do* know, HepC is generally a "behavioral" disease.

"No insurance company will sell health coverage to her because of her pre-existing condition and as a result she has been uninsured for two years," the official said.....Correction, she's been "SELF-Insured for two years." She better drive carefully. Further, I'd love to see where she's been denied any medical treatment. That part is left out, conveniently.

A state health care program would cost her 750 dollars a month ....OK. I'll believe that. It's a little more than what I pay, but with a pre-existing condition, that makes sense.

with a 500 dollar deductible DING DING DING! Here's the Problem! Howzabout raising the deductible? What about HSA's? Competition would FIX HER PROBLEM! Easily!

This is like complaining that groceries where you are are too expensive, when the store across the street only costs 1/2 as much. The solution is EASY! Too bad so many people are too dumb to figure it out.

56 posted on 08/11/2009 7:01:52 AM PDT by wbill
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To: AHerald
“Not Mother?” Even thinking of Steve Martin saying this cracks me up.

I'm sure a Rupret will show up for Barry's boo hoo o rama today. And I'm sure he will be a shill as was Rupret.

Thanks for the chuckle.

57 posted on 08/11/2009 7:11:16 AM PDT by Pigsley
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To: tobyhill
Can someone look at this State of New Hampshire statement of receipts and expenditures and figure out if the Lori Hitchcock on page 5 is the same one as in the article?

http://www.sos.state.nh.us/2009%20r&e%20reports/demstate040109.pdf

58 posted on 08/11/2009 8:39:53 AM PDT by tapatio
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59 posted on 08/11/2009 10:30:38 AM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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