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Journo Asks Why Can't 'Progressives' Win?
Publius Forum ^ | 08/10/09 | Warner Todd Huston

Posted on 08/10/2009 10:57:28 AM PDT by Mobile Vulgus

The L.A.Times' Dan Neil is confused. He thinks that the so-called progressive movement is right on all the issues, but he just cannot understand why they can't win the public debate. Neil laments that they have all the "English majors" on their side but cannot win "any war of words." Just what is going on here, he wants to know? He's so frustrated that he took to his keyboard to ask these questions in a Pittsburgh Gazette article from August 9.

In his piece, Neil wonders, for instance, why the "progressives" are so inept at debate and cannot convince the lowly voters of the merits of their argument even though they are obviously right? He goes on to bemoan that the "progressives" are trying, but are just too darn nice, too “anti-inflammatory” in their rhetoric. He concludes that it's time for the "progressives" to take off the gloves and fight dirty like the "insurance companies" have been doing.

Now, Mr. Neil seems like a smart fella. All his words and spelled correctly, and all. But for all his moaning and gnashing of teeth about why the "progressives" just can't seem to win he misses the elephant in the room. "Progressives" can't win because they are liars. And, as his blather in the Gazette shows, Neil is a liar, too.

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Yeah, they can't win because they are LIARS. Liberals and "progressives" can't tell the truth.
1 posted on 08/10/2009 10:57:29 AM PDT by Mobile Vulgus
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To: Mobile Vulgus

but mostly importantly, they’re on the wrong side of the issues.


2 posted on 08/10/2009 10:58:24 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: Mobile Vulgus
Neil laments that they have all the "English majors" on their side but cannot win "any war of words."

Well, most music majors can't play worth a crap, either.

3 posted on 08/10/2009 10:59:23 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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Cant’t tell the truth. You are close. The reality is that they can not tell right from wrong. Liberals and progressives are insane.


4 posted on 08/10/2009 11:00:09 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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"Journo Asks Why Can't 'Progressives' Win?"


5 posted on 08/10/2009 11:00:15 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Mobile Vulgus

Well, no matter how articulate you are — it’s going to be hard to convince someone that 2 + 2 = 100000.

Even if you have TOTUS at your beck and call.


6 posted on 08/10/2009 11:00:15 AM PDT by rom (Israel got Saul before they got David. Where's our David?)
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To: Mobile Vulgus
The L.A.Times' Dan Neil is confused. He thinks that the so-called progressive movement is right on all the issues, but he just cannot understand why they can't win the public debate.

Because Socialism is built on lies. It cannot stand the public scrutiny and measure against the historical record.

Socialist revisionist history means never having to accept the lessons of the past.

7 posted on 08/10/2009 11:00:55 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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Huh? They’ve won battle after socio-political battle in this country, and they’re well on their way to winning the war!

Take your little begging-the-question trick and play on the simple-minded.


8 posted on 08/10/2009 11:01:30 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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They can’t win because they are simply on the wrong side of the issues. The left resorts to name-calling, ad hominem and physical attacks because they have no basis in facts.


9 posted on 08/10/2009 11:03:21 AM PDT by astounded (The democrat party is a clear and present danger to America.)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

dan.neil@latimes.com


10 posted on 08/10/2009 11:04:17 AM PDT by Vasilli22
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Media Schadenfreude and Media Shenanigans PING


11 posted on 08/10/2009 11:04:42 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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remember Obama successully came out as a TAX CUTTER because he said he would not tax health benefits.

Obama had to run as a conservative in order to sucker the mushy brained middle


12 posted on 08/10/2009 11:04:44 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

It’s because a boatload of English degrees can’t overcome the innate power of stupid.


13 posted on 08/10/2009 11:05:04 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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They did. In 1917.


14 posted on 08/10/2009 11:05:10 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (This tagline excerpted. To read more, click on MyOverratedBlog.com)
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here’s why they cannot win

these elitist liberals and they are that are stuck up, snotty nosed sheep.

They surround themselves with like minded people and it is when they hear another side they are shocked, stunned that someone can have another view.

If they actually got out of their mc mansion houses and neighborhoods and actually met people who live outside the north east , west coast and DC they would know that they are a small minority


15 posted on 08/10/2009 11:06:15 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman -- end racism end affirmative action)
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It’s because they’re effing idiots too. Most of them are nothing more than a home for gerbils.


16 posted on 08/10/2009 11:06:57 AM PDT by Waco (Libs exhale too much)
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HA....sat with a “Progressive” at my HS reunion this past weekend....whoa....she did not even know about the FARM Bill....told her she ought to check it out (I figure progressives will be upset by it, too)....THEY are SO ignorant....didn’t have the heart to go into anything else...let her buy me a drink....and then left the table!


17 posted on 08/10/2009 11:07:13 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Tell everyone, DEMS are the RACISTS...they created the KKK and Jim Crow Laws...to start)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

Actually, they have been winning because they ARE liars!

In many districts, they campaign as “moderate alternatives” to the GOP’s candidates - when in fact, they were anything but moderate.

They have also been winning because of groups like ACORN, SEIU and AFSCME - not to mention a significantly large chunk of the media.


18 posted on 08/10/2009 11:08:08 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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They DID win.

Look at California and Massachusetts. Any questions?

19 posted on 08/10/2009 11:09:45 AM PDT by listenhillary (90% of our problems could be resolved with a government 10% of the size it is now.)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

Well each issue is cultivated by little walled off isolated cults, with only the public purse as a common.


20 posted on 08/10/2009 11:10:36 AM PDT by junta (Conservatives, the word "racism" is now ours.)
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