Posted on 08/07/2009 7:06:37 AM PDT by sovereignty2
Remember the good old days, when one only had to watch out for the Federal Governments twisted interpretation of the commerce clause to justify tyranny?
Well those days seem to be long gone. The Obama Administration has been employing an old tactic lately what some might call an imperial threat and theyre not doing it overseas, either.
The state of Oklahoma is now the target of a direct challenge from US Attorney General Eric Holder, who is using the Civil Rights Act of 1964 as justification to violate Oklahomas sovereignty as affirmed by the Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution.
In a letter written to the State Attorney General in April, the Federal government used aggressive language, bringing up the possibility of withholding Federal funds appropriated for Oklahoma. The reason? A proposed amendment to the State Constitution, which requires voter approval, that would make English the official language of the State.
What it indicates is the Federal Governments contempt for the states, in this case Oklahoma, and for the idea of federal as opposed to national government. AG Holder believes that Oklahoma is an administrative subdivision of the USA, and that it is perfectly right for him to coerce Oklahomans to do his will. Who cares whether he has ever been to Oklahoma, met an Oklahoman, or thought about Oklahoma? said Kevin Gutzman, an American historian and bestselling author.
DESTROYING LOCAL GOVERNMENT
Both of these letters, particularly this letter to the Attorney General of Oklahoma, are very officious, observed Rob Natelson, professor of law at the University of Montana. It reminds one eerily of the kinds of communications that started to come out from the Emperor to the local cities of the Roman Empire, beginning the course of the ultimate destruction of local government.
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I’m sending this article to a lot of our friends and relatives. Keep it up, Obummer, and you’ll have even the ‘rats in this state hating your guts.
Excellent. I agree wholeheartedly.
The “big reset” has to happen through our state legislatures.
We, the militia, will have to be ready to repel invaders that attempt to violate state sovereignty, however.
I am already here and we won't take this $#!+ form zero, holder or anyone else for that matter. If they want a fight, they found it here.....red
Why move to Oklahoma?
In the spring the wind blows like crazy. In the summer it can be terribly hot and in the winter some days are really cold.
Now look at the map and you will see all 77 counties voted red, that’s why!
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Texas, OK... I’m in Ks - next up the chain.
I would be just pleased as punch to live in “Jesusland” - from the electoral map of 2004.
We’d have to have strict “no liberal” immigration policies though, to keep the “progressives” from escaping their self created hellholes and bringing their destructive ideas with them.
Both of these letters, particularly this letter to the Attorney General of Oklahoma, are very officious,
Officious! The precisely correct word for the attitude taken by this administration toward its role in serving the people: instead of stewards of the public trust, they stepped in as “master” to the people’s “servant”. Not a big Sooner fan myself, being a Longhorn, but this is (gulp) bigger than interstate rivalry!
Colonel, USAFR
And Arkansas will be with both of you.
Awesome! Thanks!
Maybe Oklahoma should beat them to the punch and withhold its funds given to the federal government, first!
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But that is not the point in controversy. It is, whether congress has a right to regulate that, which is not committed to it, under a power, which is committed to it, simply because there is, or may be an intimate connexion between the powers. If this were admitted, the enumeration of the powers of congress would be wholly unnecessary and nugatory. Agriculture, colonies, capital, machinery, the wages of labour, the profits of stock, the rents of land, the punctual performance of contracts, and the diffusion of knowledge would all be within the scope of the power; for all of them bear an intimate relation to commerce. The result would be, that the powers of congress would embrace the widest extent of legislative functions, to the utter demolition of all constitutional boundaries between the state and national governments. When duties are laid, not for purposes of revenue, but of retaliation and restriction, to countervail foreign restrictions, they are strictly within the scope of the power, as a regulation of commerce. But when laid to encourage manufactures, they have nothing to do with it. The power to regulate manufactures is no more confided to congress, than the power to interfere with the systems of education, the poor laws, or the road laws of the states.
Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution
I agree nearly completely. Only difference is you need to write "us" instead of "them," and "our" instead of "their."
Welcome aboard, brother. Keep your powder dry!
The first thing we do is reorganize our universities. Abolish tenure and demand fair and balanced education. Radical leftist faculty MUST, at all times, be balanced with conservative faculty. Every great revolution revamps the universities. Communism has been festering in American universities since the Stalinist days of the 1930s. The chickens have come home to roost as a majority of Americans are now left leaning...
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That's a great idea. Any Freeper attorneys who could comment on how to do this with maximum legal effect? We need to starve the Federal beast.
Damn right. Arkansans in overwhelming numbers reject Obama.
thats fine, then OK will not forward the Fed’s share of the income taxes. This is line that will start it, I just don’t know which state is going to be the first to do this.
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