Posted on 08/06/2009 4:32:02 PM PDT by steve-b
On Saturday, Orly Taitz filed in federal court the forged Kenyan birth certificate for President Obama that she'd discovered. It lasted in the file for less than a week -- on Thursday, a judge ordered the motion that Taitz had submitted stricken from the court record....
In the order, which can be downloaded in PDF form here, the judge says the motion was improperly filed "for the following reasons: Lacks proper notice; improper form and format; Counsel failed to identify her Cal. State Bar No.; description of motion conflicts or differs from that which counsel entered on Court's e-docket."
Taitz could file another motion, accompanied again by the forged birth certificate -- but she'll have to overcome the mistakes she made with this filing, and that might prove difficult. The electronic court record for the case, in which she's representing Alan Keyes, among others, is filled with similar procedural errors on her part.
Not that it would matter anyway -- the document is a proven fake, and the Australian birth certificate on which it was apparently based has already been discovered. Plus, on Thursday an anonymous person came forward claiming to be the source of the forgery, and with evidence to suggest that it was all a hoax, one designed to further discredit the Birthers....
(Excerpt) Read more at salon.com ...
That was merely the capstone of a long career of faking news for the MSM.
If he’s a “Mark Levin Type,” he would not get involved...is my point. (IMHO)
Ohhh procedural errors!!! Well obvious that means the case has no merit.
Don’t be such a moron and stop posting garbage from Salon, idiot.
Your point is understood, but my point is that we need someone with his integrity, quick wit, legal savvy, persuasive articulation, and persistence.
...AND one who think the issue has merit! (unlike Levin)
Well duh.
“Well, duh” Do you respect Mark Levin? (yes?) Then what advice do you think he’d give you here? Duh??
but now it turns out that all she had was a picture, an image from the internet that can be so easily manipulated.
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Does the person she got the image from, also have the orginal - i.e. can that person be trusted? Who knows??
Because the birther movement is a mess.
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Clearly not as much a mess as the Bammy defenders that don’t give a rip about the US Constitution. People that want to discredit the ‘birthers’ should always start there, should always start with the obfuscation and mendacity of Obama and crew. Then, if they wish to talk about the problems with the birthers, fine. But NOT until then.
If promoting a faked document doesn’t undermine someone’s credibility
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Are you saying you’re sure Taitz promoted a fake document, or could there be other explanations for the punk’d images we saw 4 days later?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2308687/posts - other BC images - we’re starting to get a little more ancillary documentary evidence, but we’ll need more than that to prove/disprove the document.
Are people convinced that the punk’d punk is real, just because he got hold of a similar plaid blanket?
In any case, I’d like to see other Certified Copies of Kenyan BCs before making a more definitive call.
I certainly don’t want to say that Taitz was ‘promoting a fake’ yet - although I’m not convinced she’s the one for this job - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2310041/posts?page=211#211
“So many posters in this thread have asked questions along the lines of: “Why aren’t there other conservative lawyers out there who will help Orly or bring similar cases in their own states?” I think the answer is because most competent attorney’s realize that it’s not much more than a waste of time”
Yeah, that’s been Mark Levin’s stance from the beginning. And I think he just might be a pretty smart attorney.
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Aren’t there other attorneys coming onto the case tomorrow, as well as other plaintiffs?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2311379/posts
—That was merely the capstone of a long career of faking news for the MSM.
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Good point. Knowing what we know now about the press, can you only imagine what Rather did was the tip of the proverbial iceberg?
Agreed....but the Dimwits have the SRM (State Run Media) in their back pocket...and they have spun this thing to death. Even BOR’s spin zone. Now they are going after poor Lou dobbs with both barrels, trashing his family, too.
and they have spun this thing to death. Even BOR’s spin zone. Now they are going after poor Lou dobbs with both barrels, trashing his family, too.
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I think many fair minded Americans are shocked at what’s happening to Lou Dobbs and intrigued and will ask themselves a basic question. Why won’t Obama clear this up, when it would be so easy to do so?
Yes, I respect Mark Levin. I listen to him quite often.
Here's what I meant -- now read slowly and carefully and get it through your head: To pursue the birth certificate issue, I would prefer a lawyer who possesses many of Levin's qualities which I've already mentioned. Sharpness of mind, incisively analytical, very articulate, doesn't take any B.S. from anyone, and persistent in what he takes on.
Yes, I know that Levin himself wants nothing to do with the birth certificate issue. That's why I didn't say I wanted Levin himself, but I do want someone who has the above qualities, which Levin exhibits.
Understand??
Yes, I understand what you are trying to convey. You believe that Levin is wrong & that this case should be pursued by someone with his intellect. I got it.
The DoD can revoke your clearance because they don't like you looks.
I don't know whether the Kenyan BC is a fake or not, though I suspect it is. Uncle Chip opined that even if the BC is fake, that doesn't reflect badly on Orly, and that was what I took issue with.
I don’t know whether the Kenyan BC is a fake or not, though I suspect it is. Uncle Chip opined that even if the BC is fake, that doesn’t reflect badly on Orly, and that was what I took issue with.
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Right. The fact that we’ve not really been able to prove it’s a fake in over a week, should lead us to know that this is a pretty difficult task. I’m still waiting to see other Certified Copies of BCs from Kenya from that time. Many people are finding examples of BCs - but not the Certified Copies.
That said, I agree, the standard of preparedness before taking this into Court should have been much higher than our discussions here.
That also concerns me, as does this post about Taitz:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2310041/posts?page=211#211
I’ve also heard that there are other lawyers that are going to be taking this case up this week - even today:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2311379/posts
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