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McCain opposes civil trials for terrorists [McLame's erratic lurch to the right]
KTAR FM 92.3 / AM 620 Phoenix, Ariz. ^ | 2009-08-06

Posted on 08/06/2009 4:26:22 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

WASHINGTON -- Arizona Sen. John McCain joined three other senators Thursday in sending a letter to President Barack Obama, expressing concern over reports the Administration may try the mastermind of the 9/11 terrorist attacks and other alleged war criminals in civilian courts.

The senators said they believe that military commissions are the appropriate forum to try suspected terrorists and war criminals.

Joining McCain in signing the letter were fellow Republican Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Democrats Joe Lieberman of Connecticut and Jim Webb of Virginia.

Trying Mohammed and others in civil courts "would treat the war on terrorism as a law enforcement operation, rather than a war, and would treat its alleged perpetrators as common criminals, instead of violators of the law of war," the senators wrote.

The letter said: "Military commissions have played a time-honored role in our country, from the time General George Washington relied on them during the Revolutionary War. The revised military commission procedures contained in S. 1390, the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2010, not only meet but surpass the fundamental standards of fairness and due process required by our Supreme Court, the Geneva Conventions, and the rules of the International Criminal Court.

"Given the robust procedural and substantive rights now provided by this revised system of military commissions, and the sensitive nature of much of the evidence that would be brought forth, we are disturbed that your Administration has expressed a clear preference for prosecuting alleged war criminals in federal district courts in Virginia, New York, and the District of Columbia."

The senators said they believe revised military commission procedures will become law in the coming months and that prosecutors can be handled at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where the suspects are currently held.

"The individuals detained at Guantanamo Bay are not held because of violations of domestic criminal law," the senators wrote. "They are detained because they have been found to be members of al-Qaida or other terrorist organizations, and have taken up arms against the United States of America."

The senators said, "The forum for their trial should reflect the fact that these detainees were captured as part of a military operation and face trial for violations of the law of war. As a result, we urge you to prosecute these suspected war criminals by military commission at Guantanamo Bay."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; War on Terror
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I like the comment from Joker, on KTAR's Web site:

This is McCain trying to make us think he is a Republican again and someone that cares about Americans. I will never forget that he tried to sneak an amnesty bill past us and help to destroy our country. Go home McCain and quite bothering us good folks.

BUMP! F U McCain!

1 posted on 08/06/2009 4:26:22 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
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"I have great respect for Al Gore."
—John McCain, October 2, 2008

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2 posted on 08/06/2009 4:26:58 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Who is Jim Thompson?)
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To: rabscuttle385

Must be an election year.

Anyway, good to get all of the support we can, even if it is from McCain.


3 posted on 08/06/2009 4:28:50 PM PDT by rom (Israel got Saul before they got David. Where's our David?)
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To: cripplecreek

McQueeg isn’t fooling anyone. Purge the RINOs!


4 posted on 08/06/2009 4:29:05 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Who is Jim Thompson?)
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To: rabscuttle385

I thought we were told today that there is no more “War Against Terrorism”?


5 posted on 08/06/2009 4:29:56 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Makes me think our loyal GOP must be gearing up to run him again in ‘12!!!!!!!!!!


6 posted on 08/06/2009 4:31:34 PM PDT by Zechariah_8_13 ("If we give the bureaucrats our children, we may as well give them everything else." - J. G. Machen)
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To: rabscuttle385

McLoser is up for reelection in 2010, he always plays the conservative the year before the election...


7 posted on 08/06/2009 4:34:12 PM PDT by apillar
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To: rabscuttle385

These 3 think they are just so cute with their little manoeuvers. They mucked up the perfectly fine system that was in place and now here we are. So they posture.


8 posted on 08/06/2009 4:36:20 PM PDT by Bahbah (Only dead fish go with the flow)
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To: rabscuttle385
Gee....I wonder why???

Who are you more likely to vote for in the 2010 Republican senatorial primary?

John McCain 8 %
Chris Simcox 92 %

Total number of votes 671

9 posted on 08/06/2009 4:39:29 PM PDT by bamahead (Avoid self-righteousness like the devil- nothing is so self-blinding. -- B.H. Liddell Hart)
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To: rabscuttle385

The ‘erratic’ descriptor is correct but it is not to the right or left and depends on the specific issue. McCain is indeed an independent, erratic, irrational and unpredictable politician.


10 posted on 08/06/2009 4:41:14 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: rabscuttle385
I'm thinking Jim Webb (D) has been reading the latest polls from his home state.

Virginia has take a hard turn to the right and is emerging as a dark-red state ... AGAIN.

11 posted on 08/06/2009 4:45:53 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: upchuck

Grahamnesty ping!


12 posted on 08/06/2009 4:46:35 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: rabscuttle385
McCain will pull a Spector and go to his base until the election then he back to his old tricks. I see that Spector is one of the strongest democrats in the senate now that he is facing a election.
13 posted on 08/06/2009 4:50:09 PM PDT by engrpat (A village in Kenya is missing their idiot...lets send him back)
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To: rabscuttle385
McCain will pull a Spector and go to his base until the election then he back to his old tricks. I see that Spector is one of the strongest democrats in the senate now that he is facing a election.
14 posted on 08/06/2009 4:50:25 PM PDT by engrpat (A village in Kenya is missing their idiot...lets send him back)
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To: rabscuttle385

McCain holds his finger towards the wind.

100% Phoney


15 posted on 08/06/2009 4:51:38 PM PDT by silentreignofheroes (If I had any further to go,I'd be there.)
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To: Mariner
And, I expect to see slow, but steady, movement to the right by all the Dem Senators and Congresscritters from the south and the mountain states. A few from the farming regions of the Mid-west will join them.

The RAGE in "middle-America" is palpable. LOTS of politicians are starting to run scared.

By the time Congress reconvenes in Sep, there will be an all-out war in the Dem party.

No way their coalition holds.

16 posted on 08/06/2009 4:52:02 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: rabscuttle385; apillar; bamahead; Mariner

John McCain lacks leadership for, and should not be regarded as a participant in an effort to win the War on Terror. His leadership codified the Army interrogation manual making terrorists legal combatants. His leadership granted terrorists American citizenship rights under Fifth, Eighth and Fourteenth Amendments. He thereby ensures information vital to defeat terrorists remains sacred and unobtainable. Terrorists are unresponsive to direct questioning and psychological gambits. Therefore, interrogators need all stress and coercion techniques our military encounters in survival schools. McCain embraces liberal orthodoxy considering those methods torture, but his searing experiences call forth contrary insights he must suppress.

McCain especially appreciates from our Constitution that laws guaranteeing civil liberties presuppose operation within an invincible society. He more than most understands Alexander Hamilton’s words that devastating, unforeseeable perils must lead deliberations. The Federal government’s three branches primary responsibility is to pursue Hamilton’s admonition that powers exist without limitation; providing capabilities thwarting dangers as well as repelling attacks. McCain understands powerful warfare capabilities require potent intelligence acquisition and exploitation before and throughout campaigns.

John McCain succumbed to the terrible addiction of political power. The same addiction expressed itself differently in fellow Navy officer Randy Cunningham, who was the Navy’s first Vietnam ace. Over the decades the honor and moral authority of both were gradually traded away for influence in the political arena.

To me McCain is like a cadaver prepared for viewing. The removal of blood and organs equates to the trading away of honor and moral authority. The reputation that remains is like the cosmetics applied for viewing the corpse at the funeral.


17 posted on 08/06/2009 5:29:25 PM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: rabscuttle385

Too late, McCain. Go back to sleep.


18 posted on 08/06/2009 6:08:55 PM PDT by YHAOS
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